Just a story I thought I would share
Just a story I thought I would share
In 1970 my dad planted 10 acres of soybeans
Just for reference, (football field = one acre)
Dad farmed about 500 acres back then ... average size here
He mostly planted wheat ... some milo & alfalfa
Not very much soybeans planted in this area
They got a good start & about half grown
Then we hit a dry spell.....
Dad was nervous they wouldn't amount to much
So he asked a neighbor if he wanted them for cattle feed
( you bale the whole plant... instead of harvesting the bean seed )
The neighbor said yes , we left on a vacation the next morning
When we got back... the beans were still there
And almost doubled in size !
It had rained the night we had left .....
Neighbor jokingly asked dad if he still wanted them cut ?
Dad had to admit he was glad he hadn't cut them
When dad cut them they made almost 30 bushel an acre
Pretty darn good back in the 70s in this area
He had to haul them to a grain elevator (terminal that buys grain)
About 50 miles away, because no local markets took soybeans
Dad sold them for $10 a bushel.....
$3000 for one truckload of soybeans
He went to linsborg Kansas and bought a brand new
1971 F250 2wd ... 360 engine & automatic transmission
AM radio & heater ....
It didn't even take the whole check .....
Today it would take close to 200 acres to buy the same 2017 truck
Just for reference, (football field = one acre)
Dad farmed about 500 acres back then ... average size here
He mostly planted wheat ... some milo & alfalfa
Not very much soybeans planted in this area
They got a good start & about half grown
Then we hit a dry spell.....
Dad was nervous they wouldn't amount to much
So he asked a neighbor if he wanted them for cattle feed
( you bale the whole plant... instead of harvesting the bean seed )
The neighbor said yes , we left on a vacation the next morning
When we got back... the beans were still there
And almost doubled in size !
It had rained the night we had left .....
Neighbor jokingly asked dad if he still wanted them cut ?
Dad had to admit he was glad he hadn't cut them
When dad cut them they made almost 30 bushel an acre
Pretty darn good back in the 70s in this area
He had to haul them to a grain elevator (terminal that buys grain)
About 50 miles away, because no local markets took soybeans
Dad sold them for $10 a bushel.....
$3000 for one truckload of soybeans
He went to linsborg Kansas and bought a brand new
1971 F250 2wd ... 360 engine & automatic transmission
AM radio & heater ....
It didn't even take the whole check .....
Today it would take close to 200 acres to buy the same 2017 truck
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
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Good story Pat !, now going by your football field sizes, ours are the same length but 60' wider ....
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Globalization.
Dan
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"The Iron Rhino"
300 I6, 3 spd manual, DS II/ HEI ignition.
Stuff I added to Hints and tricks
-300-6 choke tube repair
-duraspark II/ HEI
-Horn ring contact tube repair
-turn signal indicator fix
Mikhail Kalashnikov and Nikola Tesla are the guys i think of when i build things.
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An acre is 43,560 square ftAlan Mclennan wrote: Good story Pat !, now going by your football field sizes, ours are the same length but 60' wider ....
An American football field is 47,700 without endzones
Just a good example for people to understand the size...
Farmer that I know of nearby bought a new 60' planter
At 5 mph ... he can plant over 30 acres an hour
That's about 2 minutes to plant that football field !
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
Re: Just a story I thought I would share
One hectare = 2.47 acres
One football field = one football field??
One football field = one football field??
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Re: Just a story I thought I would share
That is very interesting.
So assuming farmland is more productive now (GMO, equipment, herbicide, pesticides). How much soy does that 10 acres produce now? How much higher are the costs?
I find this so interesting because I grew up in the city and have an embarrassing amount of knowledge about agriculture. I teach in a rural town and have learnt a lot from the students but I want to know more.
My grandma was telling me about... Back when grandpa made 75 cents an hour it was just as hard for us to pay our mortgage. I did a bit of rough math and grandma was pretty close except for a few thing... Housing jumped here, a lot! And most people have two household incomes. That's nearly double the money coming in... Less childcare.
Nic
So assuming farmland is more productive now (GMO, equipment, herbicide, pesticides). How much soy does that 10 acres produce now? How much higher are the costs?
I find this so interesting because I grew up in the city and have an embarrassing amount of knowledge about agriculture. I teach in a rural town and have learnt a lot from the students but I want to know more.
My grandma was telling me about... Back when grandpa made 75 cents an hour it was just as hard for us to pay our mortgage. I did a bit of rough math and grandma was pretty close except for a few thing... Housing jumped here, a lot! And most people have two household incomes. That's nearly double the money coming in... Less childcare.
Nic
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Great story. Ah, the good old days!
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The seed back then was probably around $15 an acre.. today over $50mercuryv8 wrote:That is very interesting.
So assuming farmland is more productive now (GMO, equipment, herbicide, pesticides). How much soy does that 10 acres produce now? How much higher are the costs? Nic
I'm not sure on chemical cost.. I would guess less than $10 then.... today over $50
The local price is about $9 .... our local elevator will buy all grains
Farm ground in 1970 probably averaged $750 acre
Some ground around here sold for $4000 acre... but average is closer to $3000
The bigger the farm equipment gets ... the less farmers needed
One combine today , can cut what took at least 5 combines in 1970 did
They have in excess of 500 hp tractors now
Very few were over a hundred hp back then
Fuel was .25 cents.... today diesel is near $2.50 .... I have paid over $4
Fertilizer is probably 20 times as costly
The price of grain ..... not that much different than in 1970
I'm a small farmer with old equipment
I have 2 part time jobs
My wife has a job in town
But this is the future that I see happening 25 or less years from now
One farm in 2040 , where there was 30 now... a 100 in 1970
2 or 3 Companies like Monsanto controlling all seed sales (illegal to save own seed)........
2 or 3 machinery builders like Deere still selling .. and it will be illegal to work
On you own equipment ( they are already trying to get that )
I wouldn't be surprised if the government would make rules , so owning animals
Like pigs , cows , chickens will be very difficult for a regular person
All in the name of making farm industry more efficient ... just like the post office is
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
Re: Just a story I thought I would share
LoL ... Just like the post office.
It's really illegal to save your own seed? How do they justify that?
Nic
It's really illegal to save your own seed? How do they justify that?
Nic
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Pat,
Did some copper gutters for a farmer in Bethany,Mo.This guy lived large,what you were saying about one farm where there were once ten.One of his sixteen full time employees was telling me the guy buys up more land every two years and at last count was planting 20,000 acres of corn.... What kind of paycheck would give you with an average crop....just curious...all I know bout farming is the hrs.are long and labor is the same....
Did some copper gutters for a farmer in Bethany,Mo.This guy lived large,what you were saying about one farm where there were once ten.One of his sixteen full time employees was telling me the guy buys up more land every two years and at last count was planting 20,000 acres of corn.... What kind of paycheck would give you with an average crop....just curious...all I know bout farming is the hrs.are long and labor is the same....
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Merc v8
Soybean seed has been genetically modified to resist certain chemicals
"Roundup ready" means you can spray roundup (a weed killer)
And it doesn't kill the soybeans
Just another way to keep your fields free from weeds
When you buy them , you sign a contract saying you won't save
The seed to replant next year... some guys have been caught
And Monsanto has plenty of lawyers to convict them
I think wheat will follow .... at this time you can still save for
Your own personal use
Dan... I couldn't tell you , I hardly ever plant corn
The guys that do, have a lot of expense in it....
Fertilizer lots and usally irrigation .....
I have heard that in other states that raise lots of corn
Land has brought as much as $16,000 per acre
Soybean seed has been genetically modified to resist certain chemicals
"Roundup ready" means you can spray roundup (a weed killer)
And it doesn't kill the soybeans
Just another way to keep your fields free from weeds
When you buy them , you sign a contract saying you won't save
The seed to replant next year... some guys have been caught
And Monsanto has plenty of lawyers to convict them
I think wheat will follow .... at this time you can still save for
Your own personal use
Dan... I couldn't tell you , I hardly ever plant corn
The guys that do, have a lot of expense in it....
Fertilizer lots and usally irrigation .....
I have heard that in other states that raise lots of corn
Land has brought as much as $16,000 per acre
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
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^Same here with canola.
And a Canadian football field is 1.47 acres without endzones, in case anyone was wondering.
And a Canadian football field is 1.47 acres without endzones, in case anyone was wondering.
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Thought you might like to see this Pat and others ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Mwtai-zNo
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My neighbors have 3 new John Deeres like that...
This is exactly the same machine that we cut with.... about 1974 models
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n81hrb2NxX4
This is exactly the same machine that we cut with.... about 1974 models
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n81hrb2NxX4
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER
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[b]'' I think what scares me the most about you guys is that I understand you '' ..... KID
'' lookin good, a little paint adds at least 100hp!'' ....... COOTER
'' well an old guy can dream cant he? ''............ICEMAN
''I would donate organs before selling my slick''........ HOOFBEAT RACER