never seen one of these!

Bill W · Post by **Bill W** » November 2, 2011, 12:43 am

http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/2680900737.html

Turbo Diesel lincoln???

c'mon man! is this real?

dragginwagon · Post by **dragginwagon** » November 2, 2011, 5:10 am

according to wikipedia its real... they show between 200-500 made

jamesdfo · Post by **jamesdfo** » November 2, 2011, 6:27 am

hmmmm.........if the gas one was a Lincoln LSC, does that mean the smoker was an LSD ??:):)

James

fire truck · Post by **fire truck** » November 2, 2011, 7:44 am

Yes, they are real, a lot of cars got diesels in the 80's. I've seen two diesel continentals, but never even heard of a two door one.....

Toyz · Post by **Toyz** » November 2, 2011, 12:27 pm

It was a BMW sourced engine; probably would outlast the car.
Even when compared to the gas engine with 164 horsepower, it was unGodly slow!
Ad has been flagged for removal.
I wonder if someone insisted the car was a fake?
Paul

jamesdfo · Post by **jamesdfo** » November 2, 2011, 12:41 pm

Ad still works for me?
....and here is the previously mentioned wiki info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Co ... l_Mark_VII

James

Toyz wrote:It was a BMW sourced engine; probably would outlast the car.
Even when compared to the gas engine with 164 horsepower, it was unGodly slow!
Ad has been flagged for removal.
I wonder if someone insisted the car was a fake?
Paul

Toyz · Post by **Toyz** » November 2, 2011, 12:54 pm

Still shows "Posting flagged for removal".
The Wikipedia info is somewhat inaccurate on the early models.
Paul

sully5 · Post by **sully5** » November 2, 2011, 2:32 pm

I saw a diesel Chevette at the Speedway station this morning. Did a double take on that one. The small diesels have got to be great on fuel economy. I drove a diesel Isuzu P'up from Jacksonville, Florida to Bridgeport, New Jersey back in the mid '80s. I began to wonder if the fuel guage even worked. The fuel mileage was INCREDIBLE. I didn't stop for fuel until I got to Maryland. Topped out at 80 mph going downhill with a tailwind, but it sipped the fuel.

DIXONBOY · Post by **DIXONBOY** » November 2, 2011, 3:24 pm

Didn't chevy have a deisel that was just one of their gasoline engines converted over.

Toyz · Post by **Toyz** » November 2, 2011, 4:06 pm

GM had one based on the Olds gas engine.
I had one in a Regal. Nice car, POS running gear, but one of the most inexpensive cars to operate I've ever owned. GM had so many complaints that BBB set up mediation for affected owners. I had documentation indicating that the car required injector pump replacement repeatedly at less than 20,000 miles, as well as Turbo 200! problems and glow plug system deficiencies. The arbitrator ordered a much chagrined GM representative to replace both engine and transmission and warranty the repairs. The rep stated that my small-town local Buick dealer could not handle that: the arbitrator then ordered him to have the car picked up and towed 90 miles to a Houston dealership. My by-then separated wife proceeded to drive the car with no problems for another 60,000 trouble-free miles.
This car made the oil-fueled Lincoln especially gutless. I still have a copy of a ticket issued for 105 mph on a not-yet-open highway!
Paul
Paul

Gritsngumbo · Post by **Gritsngumbo** » November 2, 2011, 4:12 pm

Yeah, and if you happened to have one of those "converted" GM diesels, you'd better learn to love it because they were worthless when you tried to trade one in.

Toyz · Post by **Toyz** » November 2, 2011, 4:44 pm

Trade in? Never heard of that

And my shop and boneyards reflect that!
I bought that less than year old loaded Somerset Edition for less than 20% of MSRP with 14000 miles. I drove it for better than three years, including a daily commute of 190 miles at literally better than 85 mph average speed and 20+ miles per gallon. It took the daily load off my Turbo Buick which I bought wholesale, and received full retail when it was stolen (they actually backed the diesel out of the drive into a ditch to steal the Turbo!). I gave the diesel car to a friend, and still got a better return on iit, even excluding the lower operating costs.
As I stated, POS drivetrain, and most people deeply regretted buying them, but the car did well by me.
Most of the few people who actually purchased the Lincoln diesel at a premium price also took a beating!
Paul

unibody madness · Post by **unibody madness** » November 2, 2011, 6:42 pm

My dad had the converted diesel in his 78 chevy long bed.
It was little more than a converted 350.
Kept blowing head gaskets.
I was going to school at the time, coming home alternate weekends and I never saw it till 1979.
It was a pos until we put in the target replacement motor, out of Mexico, at our own expense, after that it ran like it was supposed too, even got 24 mpg loaded down on the freeway.

fire truck · Post by **fire truck** » November 2, 2011, 8:43 pm

lol... converted 350..... while the diesel 350 shares some specs with the gas 350, its far from converted....

Johnny Canuck · Post by **Johnny Canuck** » November 2, 2011, 9:27 pm

Hmmm a crappy GM diesel... how rare...

fire truck · Post by **fire truck** » November 2, 2011, 9:33 pm

yeah, they shoulda done like ford and had someone else build there crappy diesels... lol

Johnny Canuck · Post by **Johnny Canuck** » November 2, 2011, 9:47 pm

touche

Post by **Greg D** » November 2, 2011, 9:47 pm

In 1982 - 83 I was a Heavy Engine technician at 2 GM dealers (Olds/Caddy & Pontiac).
The early V8 Olds based diesels had an internal structural deficiency - these were swapped out under warranty (I did an average of 4 short blocks a week), heads were retained. The later updated block (improved webbing) was actually a pretty good engine.
Late in 1982 GM introduced a V6 diesel that had as much power and even better economy than the 5.7. This engine was designed from a clean slate as a diesel - excellent powerplant. I drove a Cutlass with one, smooth, quiet, and good power.
On a side note; we had one customer who had a copper colored DeVille 2 door - this diesel was quieter than the gas engines. GM actually tried to buy the thing back from him to find out why, lol.
Unfortunately by this time the damage was done and it never took off.
Ford also installed small diesels in Escorts & Rangers in the 80s - imagine a 40 + MPG Ford Ranger! These are very rare now and were uncommon back then.
I have seen 1 of the Lincoln MK VII Turbo Diesels - it was in a Junkyard (I darn near snatched the turbo off it). Always wondered how they ran & about how they were on mileage.
If Ford had made a small diesel & a 5 speed available in the Transit Connect van I would own one as a work vehicle.

charliemccraney · Post by **charliemccraney** » November 2, 2011, 10:40 pm

Greg D wrote:Ford also installed small diesels in Escorts & Rangers in the 80s

A friend of mine has one of those Rangers. He turbocharged it. Now it can almost get out of it's own way.

It does get pretty good mileage.

Ah, here you go, this is it.

http://youtu.be/hz1EVnOBdhU

cooter · Post by **cooter** » November 2, 2011, 11:45 pm

Polaris even retrofitted a quad with a diesel head a few years ago. not sure if they still make them or how well they worked but they made it for people who carried tidy tanks on their deisel trucks and didnt carry gas from what i was told.