FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
‘sup everybody
I was wondering if anybody had a parts lists for swapping a 292 to a 352/360 etc using the Y-Block motor mounts
local wrecking yard has a large truck and if there’s something I need I’d like to grab it before it becomes ricer fart cans
I was wondering if anybody had a parts lists for swapping a 292 to a 352/360 etc using the Y-Block motor mounts
local wrecking yard has a large truck and if there’s something I need I’d like to grab it before it becomes ricer fart cans
I miss my slicks
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
The short answer is you're not likely to find something that will just be a bolt in swap.
I think '65-? 4x4 used a similar arrangement. Something did, pretty uncommon but I'm not sure what right now. Anyway, easy to look at the current mounting arrangement and compare it to the potential donor. I'm sure that most FE's will not.
I think '65-? 4x4 used a similar arrangement. Something did, pretty uncommon but I'm not sure what right now. Anyway, easy to look at the current mounting arrangement and compare it to the potential donor. I'm sure that most FE's will not.
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1961 F100 Unibody
318 Y-block (292 +.070 bore, +.170 stroke), FMS T5-Z w/Mustang 10.5" diaphragm clutch.
1961 F100 Unibody
318 Y-block (292 +.070 bore, +.170 stroke), FMS T5-Z w/Mustang 10.5" diaphragm clutch.
Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
There were no FE's in the straight axle Slicks, so no factory motor mounts.....but there are a number of aftermarket tubular crossmembers available, with mounts for Windsor/Cleavland, FE's, 460's, etc.
Trans-dapt brand shown in link below, but there are other brands, which coincidentally appear veeeery similar
https://www.hedman.com/engine-swap-motor-mounts
HTH
James
Trans-dapt brand shown in link below, but there are other brands, which coincidentally appear veeeery similar
https://www.hedman.com/engine-swap-motor-mounts
HTH
James
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
I seen a 65 F350 with a FE that had mounts similar to a Y block.
Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
HMMM.....When I said no straight axle slicks with FE's, I had totally forgot (despite owning an M350) about the one tons being straight axle through all the years of slick production.
But, having said that, I'm not familiar enough with the FE's to know if the engine mounting bosses were all in the same location through all years of production or not?
Anyways, in the end, if you have to search for "hens teeth", it may prove easier to just buck up for the aftermarket setup and git er done rather than hunting for OEM stuff that may/may not work?
James
But, having said that, I'm not familiar enough with the FE's to know if the engine mounting bosses were all in the same location through all years of production or not?
Anyways, in the end, if you have to search for "hens teeth", it may prove easier to just buck up for the aftermarket setup and git er done rather than hunting for OEM stuff that may/may not work?
James
66camperspecial wrote:I seen a 65 F350 with a FE that had mounts similar to a Y block.
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
I have done this swap before.(It was several years ago) You will need the front motor mount crossmember, front engine mount, the steel timing cover off the FE engine that holds the front mount, and the bellhousing that has the side ears that sit on the rear crossmember under the engine. The only problem i had with the swap was getting the y-block transmission to mount to the FE housing as the holes are different. You can usually find these parts on the F350-F600 trucks, factory 65 4x4's and 1966 F250 4x4 trucks.
Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
1964WVFORD is on the right track. I had 330 MD parts holding a 390 in my motor home. A 330 MD with a small crank snout will have the bolt on cover to an FE. There is a HD cooling timing cover that a small seal drives in from the crank side but you'll need to figure out lower hose plumbing and accessory brackets. The zero balanced flywheel, bell housing and clutch from a 330 MD will all bolt up to a 352/390 but you will need to figure out something on your input shaft or have a larger (13"?) clutch disc made with the 1 1/8" spline. All of that stuff will allow a normal FE to run in an early style mount. With that said I have not installed this in pickup. Refer to 1964WVFORD for the mounting procedure.STOFFER wrote:‘sup everybody
I was wondering if anybody had a parts lists for swapping a 292 to a 352/360 etc using the Y-Block motor mounts
local wrecking yard has a large truck and if there’s something I need I’d like to grab it before it becomes ricer fart cans
Chris
Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
thanks, I was trying to add pictures1964WVFORD wrote:I have done this swap before.(It was several years ago) You will need the front motor mount crossmember, front engine mount, the steel timing cover off the FE engine that holds the front mount, and the bellhousing that has the side ears that sit on the rear crossmember under the engine. The only problem i had with the swap was getting the y-block transmission to mount to the FE housing as the holes are different. You can usually find these parts on the F350-F600 trucks, factory 65 4x4's and 1966 F250 4x4 trucks.
I guess I might as well pull it all and leave the transmission
I miss my slicks
Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
it’s doable, I’ve see ‘em donejamesdfo wrote:HMMM.....When I said no straight axle slicks with FE's, I had totally forgot (despite owning an M350) about the one tons being straight axle through all the years of slick production.
But, having said that, I'm not familiar enough with the FE's to know if the engine mounting bosses were all in the same location through all years of production or not?
Anyways, in the end, if you have to search for "hens teeth", it may prove easier to just buck up for the aftermarket setup and git er done rather than hunting for OEM stuff that may/may not work?
James
66camperspecial wrote:I seen a 65 F350 with a FE that had mounts similar to a Y block.
and I’ve been considering such a task just to make folks scratch their heads
I miss my slicks
Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
That is a 330 Medium Duty. Even better because it uses a regular water pump. Good thing about your mounting it like that is tou might be able to run Ford long cast iron headers. I talked to a man who had some on his 63 Unibody in 63. Don't know exactly how his engine was mounted.STOFFER wrote:thanks, I was trying to add pictures1964WVFORD wrote:I have done this swap before.(It was several years ago) You will need the front motor mount crossmember, front engine mount, the steel timing cover off the FE engine that holds the front mount, and the bellhousing that has the side ears that sit on the rear crossmember under the engine. The only problem i had with the swap was getting the y-block transmission to mount to the FE housing as the holes are different. You can usually find these parts on the F350-F600 trucks, factory 65 4x4's and 1966 F250 4x4 trucks.
I guess I might as well pull it all and leave the transmission
Chris
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
what I see what's wrong on that set up in that big truck is a aluminum timing cover + a carriage bolt ??? WRONG,, It's suppose to be a cast iron or steel timing cover
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
Haha didn't see the carage bolt. That is an iron cover though, aluminum does not rust. 68 and up aluminum FE timing covers use one long bolt through the pointer and the rest are short. That one has long top and bottom.6166 Junkyard Dog wrote:what I see what's wrong on that set up in that big truck is a aluminum timing cover + a carriage bolt ??? WRONG,, It's suppose to be a cast iron or steel timing cover
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
do not know what your looking at BUT In those pics that is a aluminum timing cover on that truck LOOK again
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Slickstock,,, Salina, KS
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Dakota,,, RIP will never be the same looking for 61-66 trucks again ,, Kathy
Slickstock,,, York, PA
Slickstock,,, Kansas City, MO
Slickstock,,, Altoona, IOWA
Slickstock,,, Salina, KS
Now Cooper will try his best
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
guess i’m going to pull it all this weekend
I’ve got long tubes and dual quad intake and such already, I’m worried about making it fast just want to mess with folks heads when the hood is open
I’ve got long tubes and dual quad intake and such already, I’m worried about making it fast just want to mess with folks heads when the hood is open
I miss my slicks
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
good luck, but also I noticed that a steel sleeve was put there at the bottom as well
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Slickstock,,, Altoona, IOWA
Slickstock,,, Salina, KS
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Slickstock,,, Salina, KS
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
No need to get smart. I might be wrong. There are worse things in life than being wrong. So what if the rust on the timing pointer mount is from the pointer. That is an FT cover regardless. I had a 68 330MD and it's timing cover was cast iron. Maybe an aluminum cover was used for a time.6166 Junkyard Dog wrote:do not know what your looking at BUT In those pics that is a aluminum timing cover on that truck LOOK again
EDIT: Didn't see the dent side body so it is not a 67. I do not know when Ford used an aluminum FT cover till now.
Chris
Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
I am looking for a Ford Clark 282V transmission. PM sent.STOFFER wrote:guess i’m going to pull it all this weekend
I’ve got long tubes and dual quad intake and such already, I’m worried about making it fast just want to mess with folks heads when the hood is open
Chris
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
you know I am not being smart maybe you think so go ahead and think it then BUT in that pic I am seeing a aluminum timing cover with a steel sleeve in the pic with a carriage bolt rigged in there and what timing pointer ? , is none , guess I will keep it to myself my opinion and mind my own business,, so don't ask
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Dakota,,, RIP will never be the same looking for 61-66 trucks again ,, Kathy
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Slickstock,,, Kansas City, MO
Slickstock,,, Altoona, IOWA
Slickstock,,, Salina, KS
Now Cooper will try his best
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Dakota,,, RIP will never be the same looking for 61-66 trucks again ,, Kathy
Slickstock,,, York, PA
Slickstock,,, Kansas City, MO
Slickstock,,, Altoona, IOWA
Slickstock,,, Salina, KS
Now Cooper will try his best
Cooper now has 2018 Slick Stock,, give him a fair star
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Re: FE in a ‘63-‘64 former 292 truck
I was agreeing with you on a couple of points. Sorry if I came across otherwise.6166 Junkyard Dog wrote:you know I am not being smart maybe you think so go ahead and think it then BUT in that pic I am seeing a aluminum timing cover with a steel sleeve in the pic with a carriage bolt rigged in there and what timing pointer ? , is none , guess I will keep it to myself my opinion and mind my own business,, so don't ask
Chris