Since we've raced forever, and since we're now retired from racing, and since we've sold the enclosed racecar trailer, we had the need for a new trailer. Since we're getting older instead of younger, we had to have a winch (we've always had winches on race trailers so the wives don't even know a trailer works without a winch) and we've always had a spare tire stored someplace on our former trailers. We like aluminum, we like torsion axles, we like LED lights and adjustable hitches since we have totally different trucks ("we" being my "former" race partner and myself). We decided to order exactly what we wanted. Figured it would probably be the last trailer for both of us!
Here's a few pics of what we ended up with. The right toolbox has a 4000 Superwinch mounted in the bottom of it and the battery for it's power. The left box has all our tie down straps, chains, trailer tire jack and anything we need to tie things down. Both boxes have a removable tray in the top with tools. The winch is controlled with a remote that plugs in just in front of the left front tire.
SPark
1932 Ford 5 window coupe. 302/C4
1962 8V-390/C6 Unibody Short Bed Soon to be Big Window - The Lincoln that never was
2013 F150 Super Crew Eco Boost 4x4
2015 Ford Edge for the little lady, because she said so!
2007 Mustang GT, 4.6-3V/5 Speed. Only 8680 miles on the clock.
This is out at the "race shop". If you're having a bad day wrenching, you can go fishing or paddle boating!
The trailer has a 7000#GVWR. We didn't want anything heavier, we don't want to haul big crap for other people! Just our toys.
SPark
1932 Ford 5 window coupe. 302/C4
1962 8V-390/C6 Unibody Short Bed Soon to be Big Window - The Lincoln that never was
2013 F150 Super Crew Eco Boost 4x4
2015 Ford Edge for the little lady, because she said so!
2007 Mustang GT, 4.6-3V/5 Speed. Only 8680 miles on the clock.
Very, very nice. Curious as to why you chose the wooden floor rather than the metal floor? I have the wood also and the weather is giving it a beating. Wish I had the metal.
If you understand what you’re doing, you’re not learning anything.
LITTLE RED: 64 F100 Short Style
BIG RED: 62 F100 Long Uni
BIG “UN": 63 F250 Long Flare
BBW RED: 61 F100 CC BBW Long Uni
CRIMSON CREW: 63 F100 "Stageway" Long Flare Crew Cab
"RANGER": 66 F100 CC Long Flatbed
"AVA" 1963 Avion T-20 Travel Trailer
“Lucille” 1955 New Moon 44’ Travel Trailer
When did you buy the H&H? I thought they went out of business a couple years ago. I have a H&H car hauler also mine is the open deck style to keep it light weight.
We bought a wood deck because it's cheaper and what H&H offers. We looked at other brands but there was always something we didn't like about any with a full aluminum deck (usually the $2000 higher price). Our last trailer was an H&H and we really liked it. It's built so you can easily change out the wood by removing a few strips of angle that trap the boards.
We got it a month ago, special ordered and built it to our specs/choice for axles, hitch, spare and wheels. H&H went back in business about 2 years ago. Same plant in Clarinda, IA, different owners. I went over and picked it up when it was done. Doesn't look like anything has changed there.
This trailer is under 1500# empty (before we added the boxes and winch). It tows so nice with the torsion axles you honestly don't know it's back there. I've pulled it to the very SE tip of Missouri, Chicago, Dallas and Tulsa and it doesn't even effect the mileage on my F250 empty. 13.5 with a V10 going down the highway.
SPark
1932 Ford 5 window coupe. 302/C4
1962 8V-390/C6 Unibody Short Bed Soon to be Big Window - The Lincoln that never was
2013 F150 Super Crew Eco Boost 4x4
2015 Ford Edge for the little lady, because she said so!
2007 Mustang GT, 4.6-3V/5 Speed. Only 8680 miles on the clock.
Drool...I was just contemplating aluminum vs the steel behemoth I tow my race car on currently. I think my Slick would be far happier toting one of those. Very hard to find used, though, and new is a huge chunk of tire money.
Very nice trailer. Why did you choose to have the tool boxes on the deck and not on the tongue? I had a similar box on my trailer and ended up taking it off to have more deck space.
We looked at several box setups. With a car tied down that area is basically "dead" space. The jack is in the middle of the tongue so it really limited us to a small box if we went in front of the deck. It's only 11" from the jack to the front of the deck. Figure the swing of the jack handle in and it really got tight to do anything there without moving some things, or using a very small tool box. We looked at electric jacks and that took the swing radius out of the picture. We looked at moving the jack but it got to where we moved one thing it moved something else (emergenmcy break-away and the adjustable hitch all come together right in front of where the jack is). We also talked to the folks at H&H about options (moving the jack forward, putting the jack on the side of the tongue, looking at tool boxes they sell, etc). This came as our best choice, in our minds. We also wanted to get the winch in a straight pull to the back and this lent itself to all of that, plus we have a bit of extra storage. There is a fairly deep drop from the deck to the top of the tongue. It would take some work to get the winch located with such an arangement. We live in snow and rain, we wanted the winch and battery "indoors" so to speak. With the torsion axles on our past trailers, we felt it pulled better with the weight directly over the axles, that puts the car back a bit further than you would think, and leaves room at the front.
This is a toy hauler. It won't work too hard. All we lost is a 12" strip across the very front of the deck, and that doesn't even go all the way to the edge of the deck. With the tie down locations on the side rails, it doesn't effect tying down anything.
SPark
1932 Ford 5 window coupe. 302/C4
1962 8V-390/C6 Unibody Short Bed Soon to be Big Window - The Lincoln that never was
2013 F150 Super Crew Eco Boost 4x4
2015 Ford Edge for the little lady, because she said so!
2007 Mustang GT, 4.6-3V/5 Speed. Only 8680 miles on the clock.
That was a very informative answer! I needed every inch of deck space, and them some more. I sold one car this winter so I don't need all that space anymore. I bought a winch for my trailer a while ago, but haven't gotten around to mounting it yet. What did / do you race?
We ran dirt late models for 17 years. Yes, you can get too much bite on dirt.
We ran a Ernie Elliot top end package on a Ford Motorsports block.
Jessel Jewelry!
This is a car I built last winter. By built, I mean I designed and welded the chassis together from scratch, made the body and built the engine. We've built our own late models in years past, too.
Here's the H&H we've had since 2002. Just sold it when we retired from racing last fall.
Love watching Legends on a short track. We're getting a lot of Mod Lites running around here these days.
SPark
1932 Ford 5 window coupe. 302/C4
1962 8V-390/C6 Unibody Short Bed Soon to be Big Window - The Lincoln that never was
2013 F150 Super Crew Eco Boost 4x4
2015 Ford Edge for the little lady, because she said so!
2007 Mustang GT, 4.6-3V/5 Speed. Only 8680 miles on the clock.
I really like that wench setup. I opted for a setup so I could remove the wench (on a cradle)
as I didn't want it to risk it getting stolen at my old place in the city. I'm now on three acres in a rural part of the parish so that's not so much a worry. The advantage of it being removable is I can also use it on the front or rear of my 04 F150.
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If you understand what you’re doing, you’re not learning anything.
LITTLE RED: 64 F100 Short Style
BIG RED: 62 F100 Long Uni
BIG “UN": 63 F250 Long Flare
BBW RED: 61 F100 CC BBW Long Uni
CRIMSON CREW: 63 F100 "Stageway" Long Flare Crew Cab
"RANGER": 66 F100 CC Long Flatbed
"AVA" 1963 Avion T-20 Travel Trailer
“Lucille” 1955 New Moon 44’ Travel Trailer
That is a beautiful car you built! I would love to race on dirt, but there aren't any dirt tracks near me. I drove a street stock for a few years, tried a sport modified for a little while and then got into the Legend cars last year. These little cars are the most fun I've had driving. They're affordable and don't require a lot of maintenance. I can go to the track alone and handle all of the work myself.
This was my street stock.
This was the sport modified, wet sump engine and 10" wide tires instead of 15"