PLEASE HELP!!!

stww · Post by **stww** » July 30, 2009, 7:18 pm

I am wondering what would be a good modern, moter and transmission to put into my 1966 Ford F100? I want a 4 speed on the floor...Thanks!

Post by **Greg D** » July 30, 2009, 7:50 pm

You will get more responses in this forum. You posted it where our threads for builds are.
I would suggest a 5.0 & T-5 from a 86-93 Mustang, good economy and enough power to be fun to drive.
Are you looking to upgrade your suspension too? Then pick up a 04-05 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, use the front crossmember, the rear axle and the driveline for a cool setup.
Welcome to Slick 60s.

Haus · Post by **Haus** » July 30, 2009, 8:47 pm

One of the draws for these old trucks is that you can still work on them. You really want to add all those extra wires, sensors, and a computer? I would second the mustang motor. You can get crate engines also. No need to put in an engine that may only get you 10,000 miles and then die.

banjopicker66 · Post by **banjopicker66** » July 30, 2009, 8:47 pm

I recommend a 460 out of a middle '80s truck with a T-19 heavy duty 4 speed!
If you can get the entire truck, get an '88 or later and you can transplant fuel injection too.

Johnny Canuck · Post by **Johnny Canuck** » July 30, 2009, 9:02 pm

Much as i respect my good friend Banjo and his very valid opinion, I would second Greg's pick. In fact if I was building a truck now, from scratch, it would be a crate SBF and a T5. To me, its a natural.

Post by **Greg D** » July 30, 2009, 9:07 pm

They are actually all good choices. It really comes down to how do you want the truck combined with how are you really going to use it. We could give even better advice with some more info. Some of it also has to do with your funds, experience, tools & resources ( or friends with experience).

BIGTRIP · Post by **BIGTRIP** » July 30, 2009, 11:50 pm

id do a HO 302 and a T5 from a mustang, only i would carb it. less hassels. good power. ya know... a properly built 351W would be nice. not a hotrod engine per se but a bit better than stock so the T5 would stay happy.

carbs: how things got done before 1986.

cdherman · Post by **cdherman** » July 31, 2009, 7:33 am

I agree that I'd carb it. Carbs have a bad reputation becuase most of us had to deal with messed up, bastardized carbs that polution controls gave us in the 70's and 80's. Good functioning reliable carbs are available and LOOK right under the hood of a 66.

You didn't really tell us what you want to do with the 66. Just that it supposed to be a "good motor and 4 speed". I would point out that for ultra reliablity and functionality as a truck, with good low end torque characteristics, a 300 stright six and a t-19 would be hard to beat.

But that's the utilitarian option. Won't get you a lot of notice amoung the hot rodders, but there is a certain sort of attraction to the big sixes too.

Check out www.fordsix.com if the 6 option interests you.

furnitureguy-123 · Post by **furnitureguy-123** » July 31, 2009, 8:43 am

I agree with cdherman. There are lots of build options for big block 6's out there. You might consider a crate motor from Clifford engineering. They will build you a strong 6 and also suggest the proper tranny. This option will also maintain some of the original integrity of your truck.
You cannot beat a big six for power and reliability. Also very easy to work on.

Hoofbeat Racer · Post by **Hoofbeat Racer** » July 31, 2009, 8:43 am

banjopicker66 wrote:I recommend a 460 out of a middle '80s truck with a T-19 heavy duty 4 speed!
If you can get the entire truck, get an '88 or later and you can transplant fuel injection too.

I agree Banjo. I am a little biased though... I love big blocks

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » July 31, 2009, 8:59 am

Welcome to the club from West Virginia. I would stick with an old reliable straight six. (240/300) But I am kinda partial to them sixes. Easy to work on and enough power to do what I want to and I can sit inside the hood when it is raining to work on it if necessary.

If it is the hot rod way to go, then Mustang hardware all the way........... Anthony

65f100_Thug · Post by **65f100_Thug** » July 31, 2009, 6:00 pm

I very much respect all the above opinions either one could be mine on another evening. But this evening I would say a small block maybe a 351 w with a 4 barrel carb and a 5 speed standard or a T5 .These trucks are simple and easy to work on why not keep it that way as much as passable. BUT .......I really like the the fuel injected 5.0 with the T5. Wait a minute Can I change my mind mid sentence like that or do I need to be female?

Heck anything will fit in that big ole space put something you can work on and have easy parts access.AS LONG AS the distributer is in the front.

stww · Post by **stww** » July 31, 2009, 7:08 pm

thank u all that replyed. i am a cabinet maker by trade, i'll paint truck my self, have most tools i have some macanical know how, people to call on. i think i have enough $ in slush fund but can see how quickly things add up. dash pad 800 i don't think so. moter 352 4p grany 10 mpg, can this b sold. would hate to junk it, 80,000 mi origal rear main leaking but runs fine. i care about details (cabnit maker 22 yr own buis) and want a nice trk but i will use it for wk when i can. I hope to put ac,headers new interior, drive train,what ever it takes. truck came from oregon, solid.

ezernut9mm · Post by **ezernut9mm** » July 31, 2009, 8:54 pm

if you are looking for milage and usefulness as a truck i would go with a 300 six, but i don't know if a t-5 trans. can handle any kind of a load. i think the zf 5 speeds are suitable for towing and hauling.

Post by **Greg D** » July 31, 2009, 10:21 pm

I would go with the 6 like Chris said or the 5.0 if I were in your shoes and how you want to use it. The ZF or M5OD are also good choices for the tranny and easier to find used than a T-5. I would seriously consider a Mustang or better yet Explorer (Explorer 5.0 has better heads) engine for the 5.0 though. They have the roller cam so they make a little more torque and last longer.

ezernut9mm · Post by **ezernut9mm** » July 31, 2009, 10:35 pm

or, gen 1 lightnings (93-95)are now real affordable. have a 240/340 351 with a 4r100 auto. mine would haul and tow all day. i didn't start modding it for power until it hit 100k. never had a problem with it either. and i got 16 mpg on the highway with 4:10 gears.

cdherman · Post by **cdherman** » August 1, 2009, 8:06 am

If you have a running 352 in there already, why not keep that? There is nothing wrong there, and the process of changing over to a different engine is always a challenge.

If the 352 needs rebuilding, even then, you have a good rebuilable core if its still running now.

You have to decide FIRST. What do I want? Tire torching power? Good reliability and decent performance with minimal effort?

I say, go for one or the other and do it right!

Beware, the BBF 460 option is nice, but you'll need a better rear axel as the 28 spline unit won't take that. You might find yourself needing rear disks as well. (Front disks are a given). A t-19 tranny with the 460 will work, but after you do some reading, you'll find that a t-19 is not a performance tranny and then you'll find that the only manual tranny out there that can handle a 460 is a ZF. Then you'll wonder at that price why not an automatic, which will add a lot of work to your process.

In short, the "tire torching" option looks and feels cool, but you may have less of a driver in the end and less money too.

But you have to decide what you want.

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » August 1, 2009, 9:21 am

i am in the keep it simple group.

no electronics
manual trans
no power steering
manual drum brakes

i do advise changing to the dual pot master cylinder. thats about as modern as i go.

up to you though, your location, use and driving habits will help you decide.

i will say the 300 6 with the clifford intake, 2v carb and headers in my wifes 66 is a very nice engine.would definitely do another one of those setups.

dav · Post by **dav** » August 1, 2009, 9:08 pm

use a ford motor for sure itll save many headaches and lotsa time along with saving money and stress but i wuld say GO BIG with a carb and a t5

64 f100 · Post by **64 f100** » August 2, 2009, 7:01 am

Don't know what transmission you have, but a reaqrend gear change will help with gas mileage, but that will only gain you about 2 mpg as near as I can figure. You might snag a gear vendor overdrive and gain another 2 mile per gallon. Overhaul on the motor with a few upgrades, higher compression, four barrel intake, cam etc. should gain a little more mileage. Mileage will never be in the 30's no matter what engine you use. Your driving a brick, these trucks weigh a lot. Mileage in the 20's is hard to achieve, but possible. Highly unlikely with the 352 though. I agree with one view wholeheartedly, make it a Ford engine, and my prefference would be the 351w . Stock with a mild cam it will blow the doors off a 302 with any cam. You can't beat cubic inches for power, but more cubes mean more gas as a general rule. The 385 series engines wil pull the truck with little fuss (429-460) and are a good choice. As to the choice between carb and injection, just a matter of what you want. Fuel injection is common today and some engine combination nearly demand it. Myself, I would stay away from the 5.4 from what I've seen of these in Ford trucks, I say bowow a real dog.

Rich

PLEASE HELP!!!

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