Borg Warner T19 for my slick.

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unibody madness
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Post by unibody madness »

ok so i'm a little late, but,I actually have a 292 in my 61 and would love to have some of your knowledge. i have the three speed three on the tree and would rather have a better range tranny.
my son has the t98 in his 61 223, and it is a little low geared (struggles past about 60mph but will hit 70 on a good day).
so what do you suggest for the geared illiterate???
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tranny swap

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Well since my saginaw power steering swap requires column work I have decided to go ahead and get the transmission swap done at the same time. I wanted to compare the gas mileage with the old 3 speed but never got a chance to really drive the truck due to the bad brakes. Since I won't be changing the rear gear ratio for a while I can still compare the mileage after I swap to the 3.31 Dana axle from the 3.70 gear axle I have now. here's a little comparism between the 3.03 3 speed/3.70 gears I have now and the T19/3.31 gears I will have in the future.

1st 2nd 3rd
3.03/3.70 2.99 1.75 1.00
x rear gear 11.06 6.48 3.70
1st 2nd 3rd 4th
T19/3.31 4.02 2.41 1.41 1.00
x rear gear 13.31 7.98 4.77 3.31
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Started swap

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Well I started putting in the T19 in my 66 longbed today in place of the 3 speed. No issues so far, bolts right in. If you have a known good pressure plate and throwout bearing you would not even have to remove the bellhousing. Awaiting trans mount to finish installation.
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Post by Gritsngumbo »

Glad to hear the swap is going well. Driveshaft length the same as with the T-18?
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Post by factorystock »

Gritsngumbo wrote:Jason: The link you posted says the T18 was: "Used in Ford trucks 1956-73" which I would think should include Y-Blocks and the 223 "6", but only the T98 is mentioned in the 61 Ford Truck Shop Manual (and 62/63 Supplement).

Got to take the 292 w/T98 out of the parts truck to see if a T18 or T19 will bolt up (if I can get it done before Bluebolt installs his). Everything I read indicates that the cases of all three are "essentially" the same (whatever that means).
The "56-73" thing must be a typo, probably meant 66-73.Just like there are different engine family's there are different transmission family's. I know what I would do if it was 40 years ago, I would look at the transmissions Ford offered in F 500 and F 600's trucks that came with 223 and 292's. Ford offered the Clark 5 speed (250 V ) and Clark 5 speed overdrive(251 VO ). The transmissions would easily bolt into a 61 thru 64 pickup with the same engines. Finding these transmissions today in good shape, may be a challenge.
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Post by 62galxe »

I have a trans I pulled out of a 83 F250. been wandering what it was. case # is 13-01-065-907. according to info yall posted I have a T18. I learn alot from this site.
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