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Posted: July 16, 2007, 7:08 pm
by Johnny Canuck
I used to watch that show like a religion, especially with Stacey David, then they took it upon themselves to put a SBC in a fat fender Ford.
How creative.
Shut it off, ripped them a new one with an email I didn't (never do) get a response to, and never seen it since.
Posted: July 16, 2007, 8:00 pm
by Greg D
I have looked at the new paint in quarts that Duplicolor makes. Not a big selection of colors but they do have some nice ones. I have seen swatches of the actual paint and the little brochures are a bit off. You pretty much can't beat the price for laquer though. I first started painting with laquer and have only used enamel besides it. I know laquer isn't the latest stuff like the urethanes but I like it. With the old laquers, wet sand it lightly, rub it out and clear it and it looks about a foot deep. I am seriously considering using it on my Uni. We may be using it on my old 93 Mustang LX Ragtop that Rose's son bought from me too. It's really not too tough to turn your garage into to a weekend paint booth. You get some furance filters, line them up under the door, cover the walls etc. with plastic sheet, put a fan covered with another furnace filter in a window, walk in door etc. blowing outward and you have a temporary paint booth.
Posted: July 16, 2007, 8:37 pm
by BigTim
Johnny Canuck wrote:I used to watch that show like a religion, especially with Stacey David, then they took it upon themselves to put a SBC in a fat fender Ford.
How creative.
Shut it off, ripped them a new one with an email I didn't (never do) get a response to, and never seen it since.
I felt the same way when they did that. They started getting back in my good graces when they put the 460 in the Bronco.
Posted: July 17, 2007, 6:21 am
by DV65CustomCab
I am still reading the Mopar forum pages on this, and there is some new discussion on page 10 of the 'second' thread about using marine paint that sounds more promising as you don't have to dilute it to get the same results. More expensive, but still under $100.
Posted: July 17, 2007, 11:16 am
by Jerry D
There's a lot of posts on this topic at the Ford Six Performance website. They too reference the Mopar site. Pics of cars that have been painted with a roller are amazing. Sounds easy enough, though a lot of elbow grease.
Posted: July 17, 2007, 9:55 pm
by themickeyd
Here's the best site I have found on the $50 paint job.
http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html
Posted: July 18, 2007, 5:45 am
by DV65CustomCab
Funny this has come up, as I've spent the last two days reading over half the 3 Moparts threads. The Rustoleum way is simply too much work to save a buck, IMO. All that thinning, minimum 5-6 coats for coverage and a lot of variables in the application if you don't really research it well first.
However, the guy(s) who have used the boat paint get coverage in about 4 coats and a whole lot less sanding, with minimum thinning. The paint is slightly more, but the work is nearly have as much. This version has me intrigued.
I may be looking into doing this to my race car (a BMW!), since I'd prefer a two color paint scheme and can't afford to have someone else do it. I could spray it, but the mess is a big detriment. I'll let you know what I decide.

Posted: July 18, 2007, 8:19 am
by Johnny Canuck
Wow that Corvair really turned out well. One of the best looking Unsafe at any speeds I have seen.
What type of Boat paint? where the hell you get boat paint? I live on the bald ass praire.. I can get John Deere paint...
Posted: July 18, 2007, 12:13 pm
by Slick Fan
themickeyd wrote:Here's the best site I have found on the $50 paint job.
Wow, that thing looks great!!
Ever since I first heard of this roll-on paint job, I've been really intrigued. I also happen to own a perfect roll-on candidate too.
I was thinking of making a 'Men in Black' clone out of it...

...but with all the tan interior it has, maybe I should go for some other color.
What do you guys think?
Posted: July 18, 2007, 12:28 pm
by bigtrip460
Johnny Canuck wrote:Wow that Corvair really turned out well. One of the best looking Unsafe at any speeds I have seen.
What type of Boat paint? where the hell you get boat paint? I live on the bald ass praire.. I can get John Deere paint...
awww man! when I was in HS I took autobody and had to paint a JD 4020. I was covered in green overspray for weeks. I'll bet my lungs had a nice green tint too.

Posted: July 18, 2007, 12:39 pm
by DV65CustomCab
Johnny Canuck wrote:
What type of Boat paint? where the hell you get boat paint? I live on the bald ass praire.. I can get John Deere paint...
Interlux Brightside paint...you can find dealers at yachtpaint.com/usa. Not sure it's sold in Canada, but I'm sure there is a similar product available.
Here is a copy and paste from deep within the thread on how to use the boat paint:
I have amended your recipe for using the Brightside paint
At this point I believe that it is better to plan on four coats. For boats the manufacture says that two coats of paint straight from the can will do the job. But what we have learned through trial and testing is that a boat owners quest for a high gloss shine is different than our quest for a super-high-gloss shine on a car.
Since I am suggesting cutting the paint with 10% product 333 Brushing liquid for the first two coats... I look at that as only equaling one coat. The third coat is cut with 5% Brushing liquid... because hopefully you are more comfortable with the rolling technique at this point and we are laying on a little more color solids. By the time you hit the fourth layer you can go with straight paint or cut with 5%.
The extra bit of paint using this four coat system will leave you with enough paint on the car ( after having gone through a number of wet sandings that removed some of the paint ) so that you still have plenty for when you go at the paint with the polisher and the compounding polish.
The following recipe may require some alteration on the fly depending on
a) whether you encounter problems with any of the layers that needs drastic corrections or repainting.. and
b) the choice of color that you have chosen. It would appear that the percentage of solids ( color pigments ) in the various colors varies. One color may provide better coverage then another. I find that red in both Brightside and the Tremclad/Rustoleum is more translucent then say a white or a dark blue.
At this point the bodywork is all done.
Step #1
a) Wash car down thoroughly with cloth and bucket of water with a little bit of liquid detergent ( dish detergent ). Rinse thoroughly. Let sit and thoroughly dry.
b) using a Tack cloth wipe down entire body of car.
c) Coat #1 thinned 10% with #333. No need to wet sand this step.
d) Let paint cure for 24 hours.
Step #2
a) using a Tack cloth wipe down entire body of car to get any dust, bugs, hair or other contaminants that may have fallen on your first layer of paint while it was curing.
b) Coat #2 thinned 10% with #333.
c) Let dry 24 hours.
d) Wet sand with 400 to 600 grit looking to level the surface so that it is level, with no ripples, bubbles, etc.
e) Wash car down thoroughly with cloth and bucket of water with a little bit of liquid detergent ( dish detergent ). Rinse thoroughly. Let sit and thoroughly dry.
Step #3
a) using a Tack cloth wipe down entire body of car to get any dust, bugs, hair or other contaminants off the paint.
b) Coat #3 thinned 5% with #333. No need to wet sand this step unless there are any visual defects that you want to address. If so...wet sand with 400 to 600 grit looking to level the surface so that it is level, with no ripples, bubbles, etc.
e) Wash car down thoroughly with cloth and bucket of water with a little bit of liquid detergent ( dish detergent ). Rinse thoroughly.
f) Let sit for 24 hours .
Step 4
a) using a Tack cloth wipe down entire body of car to get any dust, bugs, hair or other contaminants off the paint.
b) Coat #4 thinned 5% with #333 or straight from the can ( depending on your confidence level at this point ).
c) Let dry 24 hours.
d) Wet sand with 800 or 1000 grit looking to level the surface so that it is level, with no ripples, bubbles, etc.
e) Wash car down thoroughly with cloth and bucket of water with a little bit of liquid detergent ( dish detergent ). Rinse thoroughly. Let sit and thoroughly dry.
You should at this stage be able to do a 1500 wet sanding and then a 2000 wet sanding - with thorough washings and rinsing at the end of each wet sand session.
The body 'should' have a uniform dull shine at this point with no patches of 'shiny' in the otherwise dulled but somewhat shiney surface.
How long between painting and wetsanding? - Always at least 24 hours... the manufacturer recommends 18 hours... but times will vary due to temperatures, humidity, etc.
How long between wetsanding and painting? The body needs to be thoroughly washed down after the wet sanding. So 24 hours is a good rule of thumb to ensure that no moisture is left in the roughened paint.
How long between wetsanding and polishing? When you get to the final step four.. you will be doing a series of wet sandings, increasing the grit with each sanding. Then you will have to again give the car a thorough wash down. So again it is worthwhile to let the car dry for 24 hours if for no other reason than to give yourself a break and so that you can be 'fresh and wide awake' when you begin the polishing stage.
How long between polishing and waxing? Once you complete your polishing to a level of shine and gloss that is acceptable to you... you can proceed to the wax stage almost immediately to seal up all the work you did.
paint jobs
Posted: July 18, 2007, 8:09 pm
by Truckrat
I saw that Duplicolor paint on "Gearz" a few weeks ago. looked like something anyone with a paintgun could do. They had primer, color, and clear in a kit that you can buy. And it is a laquer base paint, but no mixing is required. You just pop off the lid, stir it up, and shoot. No thinner to add to any of them. Can't beat that for easy, and dries fast, too. TR
Posted: July 19, 2007, 6:43 am
by rbcyouthdude
Look at my gallery, I used Rustoleum, sprayed on outside with no booth. I get a lot of comments on my truck. I do wish I knew it would turn out so good because I did a quick job. A couple more days of prep and it would really look cool.
oconnor
Posted: July 19, 2007, 8:37 am
by GLindley
My concern is if the Rustoleum is compatible with PPG or other paints. I mean if I did this and then decided later to paint my truck another color, would I have to sand off ALL of the Rustoleum before painting with something else, or could I Just scuff it and paint it?
Posted: July 19, 2007, 9:24 am
by The Big M
I do believe you'd have to strip it if you wanted to go back to conventional paint.
Nice Vic, Slick Fan. Black with the tan vinyl interior would look pretty sharp, I think.
Posted: July 19, 2007, 10:41 am
by dwbr
all this roller painting really sounds neat, i am considering at least trying it, hey whats a hundred bucks and some time loving on my truck <wife says i spend more time touching my truck than her anyway!>, my main concern is painting the inside of the vehicle, the dash especially, you could lightly wet sand it using a spray bottle or something, but i wouldn't run the hose in the cab and it would take forever with all the different shapes and contours,
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Posted: July 19, 2007, 12:52 pm
by Slick Fan
The Big M wrote:
Nice Vic, Slick Fan. Black with the tan vinyl interior would look pretty sharp, I think.
Thanks. Maybe you're right & it would look fine.
I just thought of another thing regarding my Crown Vic...I wonder if flex agent can be added to the paint for the elastomeric parts?

Posted: July 19, 2007, 2:08 pm
by The Big M
Like the filler pieces near the rear bumper? That's a good question. Or are you going to do the vinyl roof as well?
I also wonder if there are any UV protective agents that are compatible.
Posted: July 19, 2007, 2:15 pm
by Slick Fan
Yep, those filler pieces is what I was thinking of.
Paint the vinyl? Uhhh...no.

Besides, the current vinyl is pretty beat up anyway. I bet vinyl itself is relatively cheap, so I'll try my hand at gluing some new black vinyl on.
Posted: July 19, 2007, 2:24 pm
by Johnny Canuck
(from the original article)"first off, get a can of tremclad real orange (or what ever color u want) in the can, not spray, yes tremclad, it is a acrylic/enamel paint which is very durable. next prep your car as if was any other paint job, fix all the rust, ect....no need to prime the car since the tremclad allready contains elements which allow it to be painted over bare metal. next, after prepping the car get a small 4" professional FOAM rollers, it's tiny and has one end rounded off, and the other cut straight, and is a very high density foam. u also need a jug of mineral spirits to thin the paint. The thing i really like about this is that there's no mess, no tapeing the whole car, just key areas, and u can do it in your garage, since your not spraying there is virtually no dust in the air, just clean your garage first, also it does'nt really smell at all, dries overnight and it super tough paint. also it you decide to paint the car professionally later, just prep and paint, there's no need to strip the tremclad."
There's your answer to the stripping part of your question, Big M. Unless Rustoleum is different, but you can get Tremclad, Jason.. I know you can't paint over some flat black rat rod paint.. I.E cheap tractor paint tho.