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suspension nightmares
Posted: November 17, 2009, 1:00 am
by Chefsonfire
Hi, first post on my project. Decided to graft a volare type suspenion to my 61'. Everything was going fine UNTIL I went to install shock mounts(?). Then find that I'm high on one side 5/16 . Bolts will not line up.Of course..this is found AFTER all welding and the rails are boxed in. Something about..."measure twice..cut once" ...seemed to evade me at the moment. Suggestion on attempting to just cut the one side free and attempt to make adj. I am thinking...cut the WHOLE thing loose ( lots work).. and start from scratch. *&^&%$!!!!p.s.....figure, while I have it out...go a little deeper on the notch for a little extra drop....those dropped spindles run over $500.00....Oh the price to be cool..
Volarie
Posted: November 17, 2009, 12:09 pm
by Truckrat
Sorry to hear it turned out that way. Seen a lot of guys use those on the old fat fender trucks. They rode pretty nice. Hope you can get it dialed in where you want it. Cutting that all out will be a pain. Much as I would like to go IFS, Monoleafs front and rear, some good shocks, and a dropped axle sure are easy to install and ride real good. Plus you can always add sway bars front and rear. And the best part, no welding. Well maybe a little for the sway bar mounts. I wish you all the luck in your project and hope round 2 goes a lot better. TR
Posted: November 17, 2009, 3:36 pm
by Ford blue blood
You really need to cut it out and start over. If it is not in there "square" it will never align correctly and never drive properly. There is no such thing as too much time measuring and cross checking! I put a Volare in a 48 half ton years ago and it turned out very nice, truck was slamed and road like a dream, aligned properly and is still on the road today in TN.
nightmares
Posted: November 18, 2009, 10:42 am
by Chefsonfire
Yeah, My first notion WAS to go with a drop straight axle, add power steering and discs..DUH!...SO HERE i AM...READY TO STRIKE THE TORCH....AGAIN... oH WELL, glad I wasn't further down the line when I caught this...thanks for the support guys..
Posted: November 24, 2009, 4:36 pm
by Chefsonfire
4 cutting wheels,6 sawzall blades,5 grinding wheels and 2hrs on the torches and VOILA!...OFF IT COMES...what a pain. And thats just to get it off...Now the fun part of cleaning off old welds and welding surfaces..But I'd rather do it right to insure assembly and handling...So this time around everything( cross member,motor mounts etc.) will be completely mocked up...and once again, more measurements..prior to final welding.. The lessons WE learn on what NOT to do..
Posted: November 24, 2009, 4:42 pm
by thrush544
Although it's of small consolation, I am sure many of us will benefit from your hard learned lesson. Man, I hate making those kind of mistakes!!!

Posted: November 27, 2009, 4:03 pm
by Ford blue blood
Chefsonfire remember the two hours spent "unscrewing" the prior work will translate into untold hours of fun when it is in there correctly! Keep on keeping on, the light at the end of the tunnel is not an on coming train.....
almost ready...
Posted: November 28, 2009, 10:14 pm
by Chefsonfire
Got the cross member all clean of prior welds and slag....started laying out the new "notch"in the frame rails...took old template and just took another 1.5 inches out....First bump in the road...the cross member has "pads" at the rear of it ,that when first installed, were welded directly to the frame. Now, by moving the notch "up", I have to account for that depth on the position on the pad. Thus, trimming the pad down( have to anyway...got screw up on the removal) to half the original height. Now I will have to make a notch for the pad. I will male a "dog leg" from some angle iron to weld to the rail allowing a new "seat" for the pad. Will have to take in account the thickness of the angle iron so to make the notch the correct depth.. And the band played on...
Posted: November 28, 2009, 11:43 pm
by Anthony
sounds like your on the right path..... where are the pics??? to go with the story.... you know it takes me 3 times as long to read without pics to look at...

Posted: November 29, 2009, 9:43 pm
by kstones63
Just think about the learning experience that you are getting out of this. It sounds like you have it under control now. We still need pics on this.
Kevin
Posted: December 4, 2009, 4:40 pm
by Ford blue blood
Chefsonfire one of the things to look for before you weld that bad boy back in there is when the frame is at the ride higth (rake you want) the flat part of the center of the crossmember should be bubble level. That suspension was designed to be level with the ground in order to get the alignment right. So try to set the frame like it will be when everything is in place and it is setting on the ground then proceed.