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shift issues.. Problem solved. :-)
Posted: February 20, 2010, 1:17 pm
by jwh f-100
This is a fully synchronized trans but it will not shift from 3rd to 2nd..
Thoughts????
Posted: February 20, 2010, 1:44 pm
by dhughins
my 3 on the tree gets that way with the worn out linkage bushings. i keep a hammer in the floorboard just in case. you usually just have to wiggle the linkage around till it comes loose.
Posted: February 20, 2010, 3:11 pm
by norville
Is your clutch linkage adjusted correctly?the rod should be tight in the pocket .
try shifting into neutral let clutch out , then in and then into 2nd. that should check your syncro's. (double clutching)
do you have enough fluid in the case??
bob
Posted: February 20, 2010, 4:34 pm
by jwh f-100
I think the clutch is ok. It goes into 1st and reverse fine. plenty of fluid..
It is fine from OD to 3rd.. From 3rd to 2nd (or 2nd to 1st) it grinds like mad. I tried double shifting and no luck. I shifted out of secend to neutral and tried to put it back in 2nd with no luck..

Posted: February 20, 2010, 5:34 pm
by BarnieTrk
dhughins wrote:my 3 on the tree gets that way with the worn out linkage bushings. i keep a hammer in the floorboard just in case. you usually just have to wiggle the linkage around till it comes loose.
I think he's talking about a floor shift transmission....
BarnieTrk

Posted: February 20, 2010, 7:19 pm
by R Pope
Just exactly what trans are we talking about here? I'm guessing it's a toploader OD 4 speed with 4th being overdrive, right?
Posted: February 20, 2010, 7:24 pm
by R Pope
First check the lube level. Synchros need lots of oil to work right.
Posted: February 21, 2010, 11:04 am
by jwh f-100
It is a SMOD, 3 + OD.. The fluid is good. Going from 3rd to 2nd it grinds like you are trying to put it in reverse..
Posted: February 21, 2010, 11:08 am
by norville
Will it go in from a stop? did you try speed matching the rpms and the tranny. Giving it a little gas to get it in. It sounds like the syncronizers but I'm no tranny guy..
Posted: February 21, 2010, 11:09 am
by norville
it up shifts OK right? did you have to top of the case off? could you have moved or missed something?
Posted: February 21, 2010, 11:26 am
by jwh f-100
It will go in at a stop and it upshifts great.. It is too bad.. I really like the ratios of this trans..
I had just the cover off. I would think syncros also..
Posted: February 21, 2010, 11:40 am
by jwh f-100
Bob, Do you sill have that OD trans???
Posted: February 21, 2010, 11:55 am
by Greg D
This really sucks Jason, at least you have all the "conversion" work done so if you need another it's an afternoon bolt in.
How long has it been sitting? Could it have gummed up a little inside? Some of the pieces in there really need to spin quite free so they don't "catch" when you change gears.
This can also be caused by worn shifting forks. In alot of newer trannys they have plastic pads on the ends of the shift forks that can wear down, this can make them shift really bad or not at all.
A rebuild kit for it doesn't look too bad price wise. If you have to do that it will at least be fresh and last you a LONG time.
https://www.drivetrain.com/parts_catalo ... l_kit.html
Posted: February 21, 2010, 3:41 pm
by norville
yes and no. I still have the trans but I have a deposit on it. The guy is supposed to come in april for it. The stick in the mud is he just had a heart attack, so I'm unclear as to what's going on with it.
I also have a SROD here I believe it will swap right in , I'd sell that to ya for what I have in it but... I'm not sure what I want to do with it. If the guy I sold the other one to doesn't want the one he put money on I'd keep that and get rid of the SROD.
Let me think about it. I have about $200 into the SROD the shifter will need to be straightened... If you send me some measurements I can see if it will bolt in for ya., It's dirty outside but clean on the inside.. maybe we can trade fore something ya got there....
bob
Posted: February 21, 2010, 4:28 pm
by norville
shoot me a en email, I have a line on a TOD I may want more than this SROD.
I'll guarantee the SROD is good for ya Jason. If it's crap It won't cost ya a nickle....
bob
Posted: March 1, 2010, 5:38 pm
by jwh f-100
Problem solved..

I replaced the SMOD with a TOD..
It shifts very smooth and the shifter location is much better.. I am very pleased..
OK, on to the next project..
Posted: March 1, 2010, 8:48 pm
by 36truck
Very good that you fixed it by replacing it. Gotta throw out the junk & put in the good.