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Rear axle question

Posted: March 9, 2007, 6:52 am
by Ford4jack
I had a trailer donated to me that was made from an old ford truck rear axle. the rims have a very wide bolt pattern like the old VW cars & buses had. anyone know what years ford used this style rims

Posted: March 9, 2007, 8:58 am
by adrianspeeder
Heavier than a F350 truck had them funky big patterns. Can you get a picture of the axle, or any codes off of it? Is it a rear cover diff or a front removable third member?

Adrianspeeder

Re: Rear axle question

Posted: March 9, 2007, 11:46 am
by jakdad
ford4jack wrote:I had a trailer donated to me that was made from an old ford truck rear axle. the rims have a very wide bolt pattern like the old VW cars & buses had. anyone know what years ford used this style rims
That should be a banjo or split housing. The wide bolt pattern, I believe was used in the thirties. Ford used the rear ends up in the forties with a different bolt pattern wheel. Back in the day, those wheels and hubs were sought after pieces by the circle track racers. The large pattern is stronger and rarely ever lost a wheel center.

Posted: March 9, 2007, 2:01 pm
by Ford4jack
I guess I should have been a bit clearer in my first post sorry about that. Its a light truck axle and I do believe it is a banjo type. It has a single leaf spring setup mounted inline with the axles and the hubs are held on with a single castle nut.

Posted: March 9, 2007, 4:08 pm
by jakdad
ford4jack wrote:I guess I should have been a bit clearer in my first post sorry about that. Its a light truck axle and I do believe it is a banjo type. It has a single leaf spring setup mounted inline with the axles and the hubs are held on with a single castle nut.
That's the one.

Rear axle question

Posted: March 9, 2007, 5:37 pm
by F-100XL
ford4jack ,
That was an early rear in all of the cars and light trucks . All were enclosed rears with a closed drive shaft and wish bones going from the outboard end of the axle in , on an angle , to a point just to the rear of the transmission. And also used a"buggy spring " between the ends of the axle , off hangers , just behind to rear brake backing plates. These rears were used from the model A`s and B`s up to 1948 , when they went to the rears used today , The 9 inch.
Bill.

Posted: March 11, 2007, 8:51 am
by Ford4jack
Thanks for the info y'all. If anyone needs this rear end its listed in the parts for sale section with a price that cannot be turned down. all I wanted from it was the trailer ball coupler

Posted: March 11, 2007, 10:02 am
by ELpolacko
the pattern is 5 on 10" and were used from 1936 through 1939.

If it has hydraulic brake backing plates I would be interested.

Posted: March 11, 2007, 10:33 am
by Johnny Canuck
:iagree: It would have to be a '39 to have those Elpolacko. '39 is the first year for Juice brakes and the last for those 'VW' style wheels.

I had one of those rear ends in my garage for at least 5 years, and a whole set of those wheels,, could not hardly give them away. Finally told the guy who was buying my '40 from me he HAD to take the '39 rear end or it was NO DEAL, just to get it out of my garage.

My uncle rebuilt the rear end on his Model T with a 2 speed "Ruckstell" banjo rear end. When he fired it up he had 4 speeds in reverse. Those old "Torque tube" driveshafts and the rear end, and buggy style transverse springs, were something Ol' Henry just would not give up. And mechanical brakes, He was one stubborn ol' Coot.

Posted: March 11, 2007, 7:06 pm
by ELpolacko
Yeah, Edsel/Henry wouldn't pay the license fee per vehicle to Bendix for the self energizing brakes so the lower end cars and trucks got the less efficient Lockheed brakes. The upper end cars like the Lincolns got the good stuff from Bendix.

Good to know the Ford's got your back! :roll:

If the rear axle in question still has it's wishbones I would be interested in them also.

Posted: March 14, 2007, 8:17 pm
by DocDave
Not an Anglia rear is it?
Had a 40 something that took them VW type rims. Real narrow little rearend and frontend. Made a garden trailer out of the front axle of one (about 48" between tires)