Slick 60's

Has anyone ever seen a 5 lug "outtie" 15" split rim for F 100's ? I never have, all 15" ( 5 lugs) split rims were the innie type.Somebody please impress me with a photo. When the new outtie 15" 1 peice wheel came out in '66 on F100's, the 15" innie 2 piece split rim was carried from 1965. Part numbers from books and assertions don't impress me Hawkrod, time for some proof. This rim you claim to exist (outtie 15" split rim) never existed.I challenge you to provide a period photo (non Ford Motor Company) of a '66 F 100 with 15" outtie split rims with new style '66 hubcaps. I will provide period photos of '66 F100's with carryover '65 innie 15" split rims and bottle cap hubcaps. You can't always hide behind your part number books.

i didn't even knew they built a 15'' split rim....
16'' and bigger is all i have ever seen

Yup, I am not aware of any 15 inch outtie split rim. The only 5 lug outie split rim that I know of was a 16 and was only used in 66 and 67. They are unusual rims as the 16 was not a popular option and the split rim was even less popular but they did exist. I am not sure why you would make a false statement that I claimed that a 15 inch outie split rim exists but it is a lie and I do not appreciate it especially coming from somebody who obviously has no knowledge of the subject. A challenge? What for? You have already proven that you have no ethics or integrity and will lie to make a point so even if I did provide anything you would "prove" it was a fake with yet again another lie. You have already shown that the truth is in your way and so you will go around to make a point. It really would help if you did your own research and my challenge to you is to prove I am wrong. I already did the legwork and even provided you the neccessary number. BTW, did you even bother to look into it at all? I know you didn't because if you had you would have seen that it was a running change and early trucks used innies and not all plants changed over at the same time because Ford sourced wheels from several suppliers (Budd, Motor Wheel Corp, Kelsey Hayes, Firestone as well as a Ford stamping plant in Monroe MI). The fact that you don't know what you are talking about is both obvious and clear and that the reality is you can't always hide behind your own lack of experience and knowledge. Hawkrod

i can get two 16.5 innie splits with caps. why anyone would want them, i don't know.

;here is a 15 innie split I have never seen a 15 outside split.



Im holding these incase there is any interest. May be they are a dime a dozen I had not seen them till now.

[quote="Hawkrod] I am not sure why you would make a false statement that I claimed that a 15 inch outie split rim exists [/quote] Very simple, go back and read your post on"paint question for the venerable slick historian" page 2. You claim this, no me. No proof yet. Challenge is still on!

factorystock wrote:[quote="Hawkrod] I am not sure why you would make a false statement that I claimed that a 15 inch outie split rim exists

Very simple, go back and read your post on"paint question for the venerable slick historian" page 2. You claim this, no me. No proof yet. Challenge is still on![/quote]I guess you can't read either? There is no challenge with you, it is childs play. You seem hell bent on proving me wrong and yet you can't even get quotes right. You should have at least reread it before telling other people to go read it. It does not make much sense to send people to read something that proves that what you are writing is false. You are lying yet again and yet you send people to go read it without having done so yourself? What kind of moron are you? The special kind I guess. Unlike you, I do admit when I am wrong and also unlike you, I do not lie to make a point (although at this point my email is telling me that nobody else can figure your point out either!). Here are all of my posts from that other thread and even a genius like you will find no mention of a 15 outtie split rim anywhere in any of these posts because it never happened moron. Please pay special attention (you know special, like the bus you ride on?) to the very first post where I specifically note the "big wheel option". You remember the big wheel? I am sure that is how you get to school when the short bus does not come get you right? For those who may not get the point (assuming there are other idiots besides factorystock though I doubt it) the big wheel option was bigger than the standard 15 in wheel. They were offered for many years and F100's came with 15, 16 and 17.5 inch wheels at various times over the years. In 1966 there were 4 wheel options for the F100. There were two 15 inch wheels and two, wait for it..... two bigger 16 inch wheel options! Yup, that is right, I specifically made note of the fact that the wheel I was talking about was a 16 because that is the only size bigger than a 15 on a 66 F100. You will also note that some of these odd size wheels are actually pretty rare like the 17.5 but because they were used for years they do come up from time to time (although when was the last time anybody sawone of those?). The reality is that even standard stock innie wheels can be hard to find at times ,and the 5.5 wide ones are even tougher to find, and yet most trucks had them originally so how is it that a tube type wheel of an unpopular size, that was hard to get serviced, that was not common originally, and was likely replaced when 15 inch tires became the norm are not well known among enthusiasts? Gee, maybe somebody could answer that one for me? One final caveat. I did not want to re-edit my post as it would change teh time stamp but I thought I had made a mistake on the part number and changed it to C6TZ-1007-B and that is not correct. I igured if I changed it again now it would look like I edited the 15 inch part and I wanted to be able to prove that I did not. I have to look it up again to get the right number. Hawkrod

Hawkrod wrote:It is impossible to say from that picture if it is an F100 or an F250 for sure although I am inclined to say F100. Ford did very often doctor pictures from previous years to make a "new" one but they usually would not have messed with a "moving" part so it is extremely likely that the hubcap is correct for that model (although it may be a 65 not a 66 used for the shoot). It could easily be an F100 because the hubcaps are F100 and there were never any F250 caps like that and split rims did come as an option on F100 as well as the F250. It is impossible to look at the wheels and say it is an F250 because of what you see. It is significantly more likely that it is an F100 Camper Special with the big wheel option.

Hawkrod wrote:You would be mistaken. A truck does not have to be a Custom Cab to be two tone. There was a standard two tone treatment and deluxe two tone treatment. I do believe the deluxe two tone was used on Custom Cabs and the regular two tone was on the rest so the paint codes will be the same but the paint code combined with the body type code will make the applications different. BTW, Two tone was about a $30. Hawkrod

Hawkrod wrote:You are probably correct, when I was typing I was thinking side trim + Custom Cab even though I know that is wrong. Thanks for catching it. Hawkrod

Hawkrod wrote:While I may be wrong about it being an F100 (which is why I said what I thought it was, not that it is for sure, I was pretty specific that it was an opinion and why), the 66 F100 split rims do take an outtie cap which is why I said there was no way to tell for sure. The 66 outie style split rims for an F100 were new for that year (C6TZ-1007-B, oops had to edit, I mistyped the number) and were not the same as the previous innie rims (C5TZ-1007-D) which is also why your picture shows 66 F100 caps on a different wheel not 66 F100 caps over the wheels that were already on the truck. Hawkrod

P.S. it occurs to me, when calling baloney you may want to make an effort to check your references so that you are correct.

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I admire your use of the word baloney Hawkrod....I wouldn't have picked my words so carefully.

Hawkrod wrote: the 66 F100 split rims do take an outtie cap

Here is your problem. Do you understand what you wrote. We are talking about 2 piece 15" 5 lug split rims, not 1 piece '66 5 lug wheels.(16" 17" 18" etc. 5 lug splits never existed) It looks like your strategy on this forum is to write up 1000 words to cover up your mistake. We want pictures, not hot air.Challenge is still on.

Hawkrod wrote:Yup, I am not aware of any 15 inch outtie split rim. The only 5 lug outie split rim that I know of was a 16 and was only used in 66 and 67.

Ok now, your changing it to 16"(previous statement in the other thread no size was given) 5 lug split outtie rim. Either way, 15" or 16" 5 lug outtie rim does not exist. Show us pictures! Part number books and rambling on and on aren't going to get you out of this one.

factorystock wrote:

Hawkrod wrote:Yup, I am not aware of any 15 inch outtie split rim. The only 5 lug outie split rim that I know of was a 16 and was only used in 66 and 67.

Ok now, your changing it to 16"(previous statement in the other thread no size was given) 5 lug split outtie rim. Either way, 15" or 16" 5 lug outtie rim does not exist. Show us pictures! Part number books and rambling on and on aren't going to get you out of this one.

Thank you for lying yet again. This proves we can't trust anything you say. You are full of it. I never EVER changed anything about what size the rims were. You are the one who changed things and now claim I did. The members here are not as dumb as you seem to think. They can read (although we have to doubt your ability based on what you have written). You have made so many false statements that it would be hard to follow except the fact that you wrote it down. I never said anything about 15 inch wheels and my very first post clearly noted that I was talking about "the big wheel option" so how is that changing it? What does "big wheel option" mean to you? Regular standard size? You are nothing but a troll. You lie to prove you are right and you are obviously too stupid to see that everyone else sees that you are lying to cover it up. You are not doing a very good job and you have really shown that none of the members here can trust anything you have to say. BTW challenge is still on, prove I am wrong! Please note that I have edited this post to clean it up because what I really think of you now was much worse than what should be stated publicly. Hawkrod

OK, guess the only way to settle this is to meet on the playground after school. It's ON!

Boom, boom... Pow!

Hawkrod wrote:The only 5 lug outie split rim that I know of was a 16 and was only used in 66 and 67.

You like to ramble on and on with character assasinations, but you avoid coming up with any proof of this wheel. Please show us period photos of '66 F 100's with outtie split rim wheels. Thats all!

Its a damn wheel. Get over it!!!

reading all of this makes me tired

slick4x4 wrote:reading all of this makes me tired

are you saying that they are going "round" and "round" on this subject?

Can't we all just get along? Life is too short!!