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Power steering

Posted: June 25, 2011, 2:55 am
by Alan Mclennan
Some time ago!, I was chatting with Garbz about power steering for right hand drive trucks!, he`s suggestion was to just put a left hand box on the right hand side!, but on the out side of the rail!.
This idea may work!, but before I jump in and buy a power box from over there!, I`d like to know how well it will sit on the outside of the rail, does the input spline sit in the centre of the rail and how far offset does it put the spline for the Pittman arm?.
So if you have a power box sitting around and a bare chassis, could you please try this for me!, and give me some feed back as well as your thought`s on the idea!, I would much appreciate the help!

Posted: June 25, 2011, 4:36 pm
by Leeroy
Alan I don't know if this will help, my slick has power steering that was added later, on the receipt it was listed as 69 f100 power steering kit.

I still have the straight axle steering box but it has a control valve and power ram attached to the steering ah la early mustang. It does look a bit cumbersome, but means you don't have to change the p/s box!

Posted: June 25, 2011, 6:08 pm
by Alan Mclennan
Leeroy have you got any pic`s of the set up?, I think the problem maybe the direction the Pittman arm travels.

Posted: June 25, 2011, 6:24 pm
by Bill W
Alan, if you need to chat wit Dave i can help.

Posted: June 25, 2011, 6:51 pm
by Leeroy
Leave it with me, I'll get you some but I'll need a few days.

Posted: June 25, 2011, 6:57 pm
by Alan Mclennan
Bill, Thanks!, but I only need these measurements, you can say G`day to him for me tho!, the last time I saw him, Lyn and I had a great meal with them at the Romano`s Macaroni Grille, in Scottsdale AZ. we even got to draw on the table cloth while we waited to be fed!

Posted: June 25, 2011, 8:46 pm
by banjopicker66
Alan, forgive me if I am repeating what you already know, but I do not see it in this thread.
Over here, the front half of the frame dimensions are identical from '65 - '79, for F-100, F-150 and F-250 (2WD only, by the way). This allows later upgrades to be bolted into earlier trucks.
I added power steering to my '66 by using a '76 power steering box, a '78 power steering pump for a '78 - '96 (I added factory serpentine belts), and a power steering column from a '72 truck.
Note that the pitman arm must come from the donor truck year to correctly fit the box, but all '65 - '79 pitman arms will fit all years' steering linkages just fine.
The appropriate donors are '69 - '79 for the gearbox. You can use a '68 - '72 power steering column that looks more like the original '65/'66 column, but the '73-'79 power columns work just as well.

So, armed with that information, are these possibilities at all:
1. That OZ right hand frames are the same as described above?
2. That '73 - '79 F-100/250 trucks had right-hand power steering?
3. That you can harvest a later right-hand power steering setup and bolt it up to yours?

Posted: June 25, 2011, 9:18 pm
by f100jim
Alan, I have a loose bendix box and a front clipless truck I could check out for you. Does your truck still have the Twi- eye- bee radius rods :D

Posted: June 25, 2011, 9:49 pm
by Alan Mclennan
John, They never brought out a Power steer F100 down here!, never! and that's why it`s so difficult!.
I want this for Lenore!, as Last Sunday, I had to put her away with my work van in the drive, I nearly had a coronary! :lol: and trying to turn the wheel without moving to gain that extra turn!, isn't good for the steering components or me!.

Jim, yes it`s still twin I beam suspension, that would be great if you could do this for me!, thanks mate!

Posted: June 26, 2011, 8:57 am
by f100jim
Alan, you got a PeeM :D

Posted: June 26, 2011, 5:02 pm
by Alan Mclennan
f100jim wrote:Alan, you got a PeeM :D
Thanks Jim!, I got it!, looks like it wont work!, Oh well back too the drawing board!

Posted: July 3, 2011, 2:36 am
by Alan Mclennan
I was just looking at Jerry T`s build!, nice progress by the way Jerry!, and I noticed he`s 78` power steering box looks like our right hand drive box`s, has anyone got one that could give some dimensions for it?, I suppose I should of asked Jerry!. :roll:

Posted: July 3, 2011, 8:41 am
by Rusty 63
Alan:
I've seen threads where guys used Toyota power boxes on their slicks... any chance of adapting one of those? I've got to imagine there are Toy's down under?

Posted: July 3, 2011, 9:01 am
by f100jim
Wouldn't there have been power steering on any right hand drive 69- 79 f100- 250 ambulances or commercial trucks in Australia you might could find that would fit your truck,Alan?

Posted: July 3, 2011, 7:33 pm
by Leeroy
I haven't forgotten you mate, I will try and take pics tomorrow.

Posted: July 3, 2011, 9:01 pm
by f100jim
Sorry banjo, I didn't catch your post :oops:

Posted: July 4, 2011, 2:05 am
by Alan Mclennan
Leeroy wrote:I haven't forgotten you mate, I will try and take pics tomorrow.
Leeroy, No sweat mate!.

Paul, I`ve heard that the Datsun 280c and the 260c had power box`s that with minor fab work can be used!, the big problem is they are like finding a mint condition twin cab XL F100 Uni, or they cost that much! :roll:

Blue Mountain John, I got your SMS today thanks mate!, but I have a new mobile and I`m not up to speed typing on it yet!, You don`t happen to know where one is do you? :lol:

Posted: July 4, 2011, 7:47 am
by Rusty 63
Alan:
I would've thought they'd use a box out of a Toy pickup '80s-'90s.
Maybe pm this sully5 guy & ask what box he used??

http://fordtruk.com/forums/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

Posted: July 4, 2011, 6:40 pm
by Alan Mclennan
Paul, He`s doing a real nice job on that!, but his is a single I beam and mine is a twin I beam!

Posted: October 20, 2011, 6:28 pm
by Leeroy
Did you get anywhere with this Alan?