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Will a 351M out of a 79'f-150 4x4 bolt into a 66' f-250 2wd?
Posted: May 6, 2007, 11:44 am
by MN_66_F250
Hi Folks!
I have a 1966 Ford F-250 2wd with an original 240 or 300 ci straight 6 motor with a 4 spd. manual on the floor. granny 1st gear, while driving about 55mph. something in the motor broke loose and it knocks like all heck. I am going to replace the motor... Now to the question, I have located a 1979 F-150 4x4 with a 351M, with a 4spd. manual trans. Now will this motor bolt into my 66 using the 79's motor mounts and engine?
Thank you very much to anyone who has any info. or comments to share!
Travis I.
New Ulm, MN
Posted: May 6, 2007, 12:30 pm
by bigtrip460
Posted: May 6, 2007, 1:45 pm
by banjopicker66
The short answer is: Almost.
Actually, any motor/transmission combination in any for truck '65 - '79 will bolt right up, IF you have the correct engine perches. All of the perches fom those years trucks will bolt up to the frames.
I do not believe, though, that the 4x4 perches will bolt up to the 2x4 frame.
In my opinion, unless you really want a 4x4 of that era, I would suggest you pass on this one, and look for a complete 2x4 truck with a running drivetrain. Wrecked or rotted out is even better. Of course, you can use other engines (such as the 300 six) from later years, but you need the perches from a '65 - '79 or earlier.
I used a '78 donor for the engine perches, and put a 460 into my '66. Here are all the specs:
I am getting 15 MPG at 70 MPH with a nearly stock 460 in my '66 F-100. And I have power to spare.
‘86 460 bored 60 over with stock '86 heads - no porting
'77 F-250 460 engine perches and mounts
'69 straight up cam gears, Cloyes double roller with RV type cam
Edelbrock Performer (not RPM) intake and 1470 750 CFM carb on a 1" phenolic spacer
'76 Duraspark II ignition
Stock aftermarket manifolds with a 2 1/2 inch dual exhaust (plain mufflers); copper gaskets
'93 serpentine belt brackets and pulleys
'78 power steering pump, hoses
with ’93 PS pulley
'76 power steering box
’76 power steering pitman arm
’92 power steering cooler, mounted in the frame
'70 steering column
'66 radiator (re-cored)
'66 alternator
with '93 serpentine pulley and fan
'86 water pump
'86 fan clutch with '77 7-blade fan
'83 C-6 from an '83 F-350 fifth wheeler, with '77 C-6 linkage (internal shift rod and kickdown)
2.75 rear end
'83 stock rear sump oil pan, with stock oil pump, pickup tube and dipstick (includes main bearing bolt with stud to hold pickup in place)
Includes '93 A/C compressor, but A/C is not installed. (Needed for the serpentine belts.)
’76 F-150 3-inch rear brakes
The only modifications I had to make were:
Fabricate an accelerator cable bracket by combining an FE one with a 385 one.
Shorten the front driveshaft to adapt to the C-6 (with a conversion joint)
Change the C-6 internal shift linkage from a ’68 – ’79 C-6.
Posted: May 6, 2007, 10:51 pm
by didgeytrucker
For the work involved, you'll be happier with any engine except the 351M/400. The aftermarket has largely ignored those dinosaurs and most peoople call them boat anchors. Keep looking for a 351W. Use the rubber mounts for a 68-79 302 on that motor and I think your stock towers. How's that for a bolt-in?
My apologies to the 351M/400 owners reading this.
BTW, the manual transmission bellhousing on that 351M will bolt up to a 429/460.
Tracy
Posted: May 7, 2007, 1:30 pm
by bigtrip460
i could part with one of my windsors.
Posted: May 21, 2007, 11:34 am
by STOFFER
i swapped a blown up knocking 390 for a 351 cleveland it was a simple bolt in with the correct engine perches