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how do i slam it

Posted: September 15, 2007, 8:23 pm
by hotrodhagat
i have a 64 ,swb just wondering whats the best way to drop it with out doing a frame swap, is it at all possible to channel it on the stock frame?
thanks for any input frank from forida

Posted: September 15, 2007, 8:34 pm
by Greg D
There are alot of options. First how low do want it to go?
I got my 62 Uni (avatar) to it's present height just by pulling 3 leaves from the front springs.
There is a 03 & up crown vic crossmember swap that will take it down quite abit & more if you notch the frame.
There used to be a drop tube axle out there too, Speedway used to carry it but it's listed as "discontinued" on their site now. If it was made by someone else it may still be out there too (still checking that one myself).
I have spent alot of time on looking into straight axle truck lowering and know probably all the ways to go.

Posted: September 15, 2007, 9:26 pm
by Gritsngumbo
Greg: Any idea what's the distance from the ground to the bottom of the bumper? What did you do to the rear? Take out leaves also. How did it affect ride? Guess it couldn't hurt it much...slick's aren't known for their ride quality.

Posted: September 15, 2007, 9:35 pm
by Greg D
I haven't touched the rear yet. I am looking to see if I can still buy the drop axle before I lower the back, I want to keep a little rake in it. The ride of this truck was horrid before. Seems just about right as it sits now. I may also just have new main front leaves made with reverse eyes too. I my not do anything else til I get the new tires & wheels on it though. If I go 15s & 17 that'll affect it too and I may want to adjust for that.

Posted: September 15, 2007, 10:00 pm
by MattsIASlickShop
you can put the body on a crown vic frame. I channeled the floor and had to completely re-engineer most of it to make it work. It is not done yet either.
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Posted: September 15, 2007, 10:45 pm
by ezernut9mm
reversed eye mono leafs?

Posted: September 15, 2007, 10:54 pm
by Comet
a lot of options out there. One not mentioned yet is airbags.

Posted: September 16, 2007, 12:24 am
by Garbz
We recommend a Dakota crossmember for Slamming....Keep your truck a truck....Bags can be incorporated but are not a regular feature of the Dakota Kits.

Or we can drop your stock axle.

Garbz

www.industrialchassisinc.com

how does the cross member swap work

Posted: September 16, 2007, 7:18 am
by hotrodhagat
explain, that might be the way to go,does any one know where to find the air bag kit,just for giggles,

Posted: September 16, 2007, 9:25 am
by Gritsngumbo
I'm not looking for anything radical. Just thought it might handle and look better if it was a "little" lower. I'm already "down by the bow" a little with a slight rake.

Posted: September 18, 2007, 3:04 pm
by DROPTOP46
Maybee this info can help. Front mono springs are avail. and will give you about 3" drop. Also, "More Drop" 1-510-261-1888 will exchange your axle for a dropped axle, I think 3 1/2" is all you can get there. You will need to bend the steering arm if you do both. Out back, You can get dropped leafs, or re-arc yours(and take them down to 4 leafs), but I'll warn you against the mono springs, as I feel they are to stiff and you will not like the ride. Springs will give you 3-4" of drop. You can flip the rear axle to the top of the springs, this is a 6-7" drop. You will need a 2" C-notch in the frame, to get some travel. Front and rear sway bars are the best 'Bang for the Buck' item you can put on leaf set ups. If you go air ride, go all the way. IFS front, and 4-bar out back. Expect to spend 3K up front, 1200+ out back, and 1600 on a control system. Don't forget to add in changing the column, and upgrading the brake system - could be another 1200+. Thats 7 grand for parts by my guess. camaro IFS grafts are good and easily bagged, but require a lot of skill and labor to install. Hope this helps. Rob

Posted: September 19, 2007, 7:08 pm
by Greg D
Grits, bottom of my front bumper to the driveway, 14 1/2 inches with 235-75-15s on all 4 corners.

Posted: September 19, 2007, 10:24 pm
by Comet
My bumper is 9" off the ground. When I tucked my bumper in, I also dropped it about 3/4".
Rev. eyes, 3.5" axle drop. I have not touched the rear yet-that is next.

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Posted: September 20, 2007, 10:50 am
by The Big M
How do you slam it?

You say, "You suck! You're no good for nothin'! Your knowledge of geography is spotty at best! Get a haircut!", and so forth.


But you should only speak kind words to your slick. ;)

Posted: September 21, 2007, 5:01 am
by Gary Seymour
For a dropped axle - get in touch with Industrial Chassis in Arizona. Or Mor-Drop in California. A cheaper alternative to the mono-leafs, find a truck brake/spring/alignment shop in your area. They can reverse the spring eyes, and de-arch springs. Had my rears done so far - Warner Spring in Indy reversed the eyes and de-arched them a little, then put in new bushings (which I provided) for $110. I am putting it all back together without the overloads and I'm hoping for 4" drop. Any more than that and I might be looking at notching the frame. Shorter shocks are needed too. Classic Performance Products has them, but I might try to research some shocks and see if I can come up with a usable part from Auto Zone. For the front I will reverse the eyes and go with a 3" dropped axle. I don't want that front axle getting too close to the frame! All this work and so little TIME!!!

Posted: September 21, 2007, 9:26 am
by 62 UNI
Check my picture gallery.

Reverse eye springs, rear flip with less leafs - that'll get you down.

I'm not sure but I'll measure front & rear later today.

Paul

coll thats sweet

Posted: September 23, 2007, 9:39 am
by hotrodhagat
that looks great you reversed the spring eyes up front?and fliped the axle in the rear? i think thats the way to go, thanks for the input. frank

Posted: September 23, 2007, 10:14 am
by 62 UNI
Hey Frank,

The front end.....measured at the center of the front bumper is 9 inches from the ground. The rear........measured just in front of the rear wheel well from the ground to the rocker is 10.125 inches.

I plan on removing the front end this winter, if time permits, to replace with MMII with coil overs & rear frame will be "C" nothed & tucked a bit more....

I also have plans on running a larger diam. tire set. Maybe 18's in the fron & 20's in the rear.....thinking about 5 star smothie from floyd.....they look like old style american with gray center blades.

I've got disc brakes on the front now but intend to split the brake lines with a new master/booster for easier stopping.

We'll see what I get done.

Paul

Lowering

Posted: October 6, 2007, 7:49 am
by Gary Seymour
Paul,

Does anyone make a crossmember for Mustang II on a '62??

Did you move the rear axle towards the front at all to center the wheel in the wheelwell?

Your truck sits great - nice color choice too, and I like the wheels and caps. I looked at flipping the rear, but was not sure I wanted the axle that close to the frame. I will see how it all sits with the de-arch, reversed eyes, and if I want to go lower then a c-notch it will have to be. With a unibody, you cant just take off the bed though!!

Thanks

Posted: October 6, 2007, 9:03 am
by 62 UNI
Thankx Gary.

Someone makes a up to 62 truck kit but I'm not sure who.

Fatman has one......also from what I've been told a tci up to 59 chev will work with a bit of trimming.

I still researching ALL front end kits at this time. Couple guys on here run dodge truck stuff, ltd stuff & MII.......MII looks to be the most popular......easy parts, lots of them out on the street, etc.

I like the fact (on MII) that you can order narrower A-arms which lets you run larger wheel/tyrecombo

I will see.....

Rear has not been repositioned.....395 rear tires FILL the rear wells but... still have room going in towards bed. I will address that too. Maybe cut & add addt'l inner offset or.....larger 20" hops in rear & 18" in front.

Paul