Slick 60's

hey guys got a 78 ford f250 two wheel drive with a 300 and a c6 trany. can i pull the oil pan without pullin' the tranny? having a ruff go at it.


mark

just don't get it 30 people and not one reply......you people stink for a little brainstorming....... or suggestions.....or even a little know how.I'll get it on my own, should have known better.


mark

He He He...

Been there, done that.

OK, now I have experience with a 65 which in many ways is identical to your 78, but who knows.

I think pulling the tranny will only get the oil pan out if you also remove the middle cross member (the one that connects the radius arm pivot points). Your 78 may have bolts -- my 65 has rivots which is a PITA). Even with the tranny pulled, you may still have to take the oil pick up tube off, see below.

I was able to pull the oil pan by:

-- remove pan bolts (this step can be done later)
--remove exhaust
-- loosen motor mounts
-- remove fan and radiator
-- lift the engine till it hits the firewall (leave the tranny attached to the tranny cross member)
-- the pan will now drop close to far enough to remove, but not quite -- it hangs up on the oil pump intake.
-- reach in and remove the oil pump intake (not easy, but do-able)

Now you can get the pan out, towards the front. At least in a 65. (frame and suspension is the same in 65 and 78)

A lot of folks say its easier to just pull the engine. But not everyone has a hoist etc.

Other debate is where to lift the engine from -- I lifted from the damper, using a custom setup wood jig that matched the curve of the damper. I *think* I didn't harm anything, but I cannot promise that, having not started the engine yet since I did this.

63lokinup wrote:just don't get it 30 people and not one reply......you people stink for a little brainstorming....... or suggestions.....or even a little know how.I'll get it on my own, should have known better.


mark

Dude -- I could have deleted my post after reading yours. Mellow out. People read and have no idea, so they don't post. Only 65 and 66 trucks have the same setup as the 78 you are talking about, bear that in mind.

I was writing my post right at the same time as you were typing the words "you people stink".

Forums are handy for information, but it requires patience.

I would have responded but the pay was too low.

Yeah the chatroom would have got you the instant answer you wanted prolly. Just need to know when and where to look. And keep your shirt on. This is a free forum and you have a fairly rare set of circumstances. It might take a while until someone who knows ambles in here, and happens to read about "oil pans".

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i pulled the pan on a 302 in a 77 2wd. it wasn't fun. jacked up the engine as much as i could. blocked it up from the engine and frame mounts with 2x4 sections. i did get the pan out and replaced the lower bearings, front and rear seals and oil pump. your 300 is longer than my 302 was. i don't remember if i had to take out the radiator or not anymore. what i can tell you is that it wasn't any fun and you are already losing your cool. good luck.

well why not throw a rock thru my friggin windshield with that post eh?

i and others spend a lot of time answering posts when we could be doing other things.
expecting an instant answer to a question is pushing the envelope a bit.
3.5 hours is not very long to wait on a Sunday afternoon before bitching.

if you want more or faster results i suggest you do like the folks who always seem to have the answers to these posts and buy some shop manuals.


heres the answer to what you originally asked:

only thing needed to remove an oilpan on a 2wd 65-79 is removing the nuts on the motor mount bolts a and jacking. up the engine until it contacts the firewall. after the pan is loose the oil pump/siphon tube is removed and the pan can be wiggled out.

ICEMAN6166 wrote:
well why not throw a rock thru my friggin windshield with that post eh?

i and others spend a lot of time answering posts when we could be doing other things.
expecting an instant answer to a question is pushing the envelope a bit.
3.5 hours is not very long to wait on a Sunday afternoon before bitching.

if you want more or faster results i suggest you do like the folks who always seem to have the answers to these posts and buy some shop manuals.


heres the answer to what you originally asked:

only thing needed to remove an oilpan on a 2wd 65-79 is removing the nuts on the motor mount bolts a and jacking. up the engine until it contacts the firewall. after the pan is loose the oil pump/siphon tube is removed and the pan can be wiggled out.

Make sure the jack does not slip.

Jonas wrote:Make sure the jack does not slip.

you can put some small blocks of wood between the mounts and towers to keep the engine up in the air

Jonas wrote:
Make sure the jack does not slip.

I've done it twice the same way Ice said, but I wedge some flat wood (2x4's or 4x4's) between the motor mount & frame mount, then remove the jack.
The hardest part is keeping the new gasket clean while reassembling things.

*EDIT* Looks like Ice beat me to it.


I wasn't even gonna reply in this lame thread, but I decided that maybe future readers could maybe benefit from it...assuming they use the search option.

There needs to be an apology posted here, since none of us are being paid to hang out here, waiting for the precise moment that Mark gets in over his head & needs help.

I charge by the letter.......

Garbz

What they said is the correct method.


5$ per letter and symbol =$155.00 I take pay pal.......



PS what i miss chat last night and you guys all create controversy????

I can't believe MR ATTITUDE hasn't thanked you guys yet. I should have figured as much. I guess I'll just have to thank you guys for him.

THANKS TO ALL WHO RESPONDED --and for overlooking his attitude since he couldn't really think well with his head up my ass.


Hope that was good for you guys that sit around all day Sunday reloading your page so that you don't miss a chance to get an ATTABOY

Tim

HA!

Must be the 60 degree heat in PA today.......

Garbz

It may actually rain here tonight..... Damn haven't turned them wipers on in months.....

hey tim YOU'RE WELCOME
even though I didn't do nuthin'

I suppose he can talk to the cashier and get a FULL REFUND on his Slick 60's dues.

He wants it now!!!!
Ha ha
Z

And thanks, Tim. LOL