Slick 60's

Am I the only one here not afraid to voice their discust over the fearmongering that has taken over politics? I hear a lot of this crap coming out of the GOP but the dems do it also. Although the GOP does it most of the time. I have seen a lot of the hatred and "kill him" and other stuff out there to the point I am sick of it. On one side we see McCain and especially Palin attacking Obama as beinging terrorists. Then I see the lies and flip flops. Obama first said he wouldn't take donations then he did take them. But McCain said years ago he was for deregulation and now he is against it . He has come out against lobbyists and have posted links here to McCain stating he liked lobyists. Can these guys not run on the facts and stand on their word? Can these people running run on their plans and not hate. We wonder why idiots blow up abortion clinics. Just within the last year in my own state we have seen a disgruntled man go into a church and shoot it because they were "liberals, then in the last week two skinheads get arested for planning to kill Obama and others. I do belive all the hate and spew we have thrown at us does cause some people that may have issues do harm to other people. Is this all that can win elections any more? I use to have respect for McCain and I hoped he had been president in 2000. I had respect for him then. I think if he does not get elected this year it will not be due to liberals but due to the hate tactics I see so much from his camp. I had hope for Palin at first,even though I did get a chuckle out of her. I liked her when I first heard of her then every time she spoke I lost faith in her being a VP. The hate and scares she spews is discusting. I even wonder about her claim to christianity. Here is a quote from the Bible
2 Tim 1:7
For God did not give us a Spirit of fear but of power and love and self-control.

I just do not see that this year from the GOP and they are suppose to be the party of "Christian values". This year I have seen just the opposite in elections. We saw some of the lies and hate in 2000 and 2004 but I think this year it has got them both beat.

For the facts I am not a liberal, and I am more of what I thought conservitive meant. I thought it was less government spending ,balanced budget,family values,etc. But I no longer see that in them. I did not want to vote for Obama but the gop crap is pushing me towards that direction. I really wish Bob Barr or someone like that had a chance but I wonder if he does. So what is a person to do? I don't like a lot of the news stuff but this one has a message that is about the way I feel,just cut the mudslinging out and tell us what you can do to get back on tract.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCpv8MPx5GM

PLEASE do not vote for Obama. How can you if you are Christian given his clearly stated view on abortion alone??

If he is elected, Christians of this day and age, in this country will know in short time what the early Christian (1st century) persecution felt like.

I aint saying McCain is the greatest. But I cannot trust a man who has Obama's history of relationships (Jerimiah Wright, Bill Ayres are only two). Everything about Obama is shady and the media has given him a pass on it all. Even how he got into Harvard is shady.

With his KNOWN background he could never work for the CIA! How can he be Commander in Chief??

There is MUCH more that America does not know about him than the media is glossing over.

Look how the media is drilling him into our heads!!!

God I hate this sh*t.

This forum just dropped off my daily checklist until November 15th.
Enjoy the hatefest that is about to erupt.


I'm out

Maybe it's been forgotten that Hitler had the full backing of all the German churches, and according to him, had heaven on his side.. Politics and religion are an explosive mix, and one should have nothing to do with the other. If you are still in doubt, remember Northern Ireland, and the ridiculous Sh!t that went on there for centuries..

Churches should stick to what they do best.
Collecting money.

God I hate this sh*t. This forum just dropped off my daily checklist until November 15th. Enjoy the hatefest that is about to erupt.
I'm out

Yep typical can't have a differing opinion person right there....

Garbz AKA "the shady douche".......

Our country was founded on the basis of god and thats the way it should be if the people from different countries that want to live here dont like the way we do things, get the heck out.. OBAMA IS A FREAKING JOKE.. EVERY VIEW HE HAS EXPRESSED HE HAD, HAS CHANGED SINCE HE HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.. LOOK AT THE INTERVIEW WITH LARRY KING LIVE HE REFERS TO HIS MUSLIM FAITH UNTIL LARRY KING ASKED, HEY DONT YOU MEAN CHRISTIAN FAITH AND HE SUDDENLY CHANGED HIS WORDING... THIS GUY IS NOT THE ANSWER.. AND WHATS WITH THIS TAXING ISSUE WITH OBAMA IF YOU DECIDE TO SALE YOUR HOUSE YOU GET TAXED 28% ON THE PROFIT? WHAT THE CRAP? WITH OBAMA YOU CAN BET YOUR TAXING WILL INCREASE DOUBLETIME! OBAMA SUPPORTS ABORTION, WHICH IS WRONG PERIOD! THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CANT HAVE KIDS AND WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO HAVE A KID! IF YOU DONT WANT A KID YOU SHOULDNT HAVE GOTTEN PREGNANT! YOU SHOULD HAVE MORE RESPONSABUILTY THAN THAT! MCCAIN IS NOT THE IDEAL PRES, BUT ID SURE FEEL SAFER KNOWING HE IS IN OFFICE INSTEAD OF A FREAKING MUSLIM.. MCCAIN HAS GIVEN ALMOST EVERYTHING SO WE KNOW HE IS GONNA BE A DECENT PRESIDENT. BUT OBAMA COME ON PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THIS....IF YOU THINK ITS BAD NOW YOU WAIT... WAIT TILL WE HAVE A MUSLIM FOR PRESIDENT..

YOU THINK THERE IS HATE NOW.. LOL U WAIT AND SEE

IM VOTEING MCCAIN

I HOPE THE REST OF YOU DO THE SAME..

Damn Joey that's the longest post you have since the sandblasting naked post....

As for Nobama being a Muslim?

Think back a few years to the little dude from Afghanistan who converted to Christianity.. and was facing a death sentence. But yet no word from the Imams on the ones conversion......They don't let you out of that club.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/ma ... stan.islam

Garbz AKA "I am a tinnocker/fitter/plumber and a Douche.....

Greg

I found my self in the same quandary and ended up voting for Bill Clinton..

I was not happy with not finishing the job the first time...

Garbz

Greg D wrote:
I will be voting for Mc Cain simply because he is the "lesser of two evils". I absolutely hate that this is the only choice left to us. I can't remember not having to make this exact same decision.

Same here. Pretty much sucks, huh

Actually our country adopted God into the basis long after it was founded, the thought behind it was to put the fear of god into people to keep them at bay ( slave based society) not even our money had " in god we trust " until much later on,
People need to read the constitution and who wrote it and figure all of this out

I strongly feel that one of the requirements to run for President should be that the candidate has served at least three years of active duty in the military.

You have to look behind what the media displays to see who Obama is. Read some of his book. He writes "I will side with the Muslims if the political winds turn the wrong way".

Now, what's this about a naked sandblasting post???????

Truthfully, I don't care if Obamma is a Mussy, Hindu, or Martian.
What I do care about is that he is a dedicated Marxist and the change he's promising isn't what the average American will be expecting.
But don't ever tell me it's racial.
America is and has been ready for a black man as president for a long time. Just not this black man.
Vote however you wish, but be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.
Uncle Skip

I love my country and fear my government. I will bash either candidate equallly. They are politicians, and therefore only lie when their lips are moving.
How sadly I look upon our choices. We've lost many of our freedoms and rights in the last 8 years, but no one is addressing these issues. We now live a a police state. Hold onto your guns, this is nearly all we have left since our vote counts for so little.
What we need is a maveric that would put a stop to most the corruption. No one that comes from the system would even voice this option. Vote for me, and I gaurantee, to kick ass and take names.

God bless America,
Rich

Regarding jakdad's post...that would have taken GW Bush off the list wouldn't it have? LoL.

• Of the 42 men who have been president, 27 served in the armed forces (64 percent).
• Of the 27 presidents who were in the armed forces, at least 12 served with distinction (Washington, Monroe, Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Taylor, Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Theodore Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and George H. W. Bush).
• Of the 12 who served with distinction, at least 8 became heroes in their day. (Most lists would include Washington, Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Taylor, Grant, Theodore Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and Kennedy.)
• The officer corps of the Union Army proved to be a veritable farm club for presidents: five generals (Grant, Hayes, Garfield, Arthur, and Benjamin Harrison) and one major (McKinley) ascended to the White House.
• This trend of Americans electing commanders-in-chief who have been veterans has strengthened over time. Since World War II, there have been 11 presidents. Ten of them are veterans. The exception: William Jefferson Clinton.


'W' was in the Guard but no combat deployments with the 111th.