Trans Swap queston for my 64

LRS30 · Post by **LRS30** » October 3, 2010, 11:00 am

I posted this in another post also but figured I give it its own place! I am curious what the majority of you guys would do if you were in my shoes?
Fix the original 3 speed, and re-build Steering column
Swap to a 3 speed overdrive (insert brand here)..
Find info on ORION 3 speed overdrive and a tail shft and use it ( I have one but needs tail shft)
Sell my first born and my pitbull puppy and put a T-5 Conversion it it..
Or other option that I have not mentioned because I am such a newb to these trucks and have no Idea on what I am doing....

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » October 3, 2010, 11:05 am

my choice would be
#1 fix existing trans/column
#4 the t5 - would be my first choice but i am limited on $, no kids, and not going to sell any of my dogs

LRS30 · Post by **LRS30** » October 3, 2010, 11:15 am

Yhea I am really liking my new puppy too!..lol I really wanna go with an overdrive of some sort, I really hate taxing the engine on the highway at 70mph. Is there a bolt on overdrive unit that will work for me, anybody know? I 'm not affraid of a little modification,, trans mount, driveshaft, just affraid to spend lots of cash! I am on a budget with this, my 31 coupe is taking all my serious play money (which is'nt much trust me)...

Brian Taylor · Post by **Brian Taylor** » October 3, 2010, 11:28 am

gear vendors overdrive will bolt right up after you shell out 2500 $.
So how attached are you to those kids??????

I have been looking at going with the 3 OD. Yes, it is a light duty tranny but my truck is a F100 and does not drag race with a 300 I6.

66camperspecial · Post by **66camperspecial** » October 4, 2010, 9:17 pm

It would be easier to put a better set of gears in it.

LRS30 · Post by **LRS30** » October 6, 2010, 3:12 pm

true true on the gear set

Uncle Skip · Post by **Uncle Skip** » October 6, 2010, 3:23 pm

I had a '94 F150 with the 300 and the 4-speed OD and it had over 274,000 on it when I sold it... still running and I never had a single problem.
They can't be expensive.
U@ss

bluebolt · Post by **bluebolt** » October 7, 2010, 12:45 pm

Because you have a 292 you have limited options versus the later 300/302/351. This is due to the longer input shaft needed by the 292 truck bellhousing. The later truck OD transmissions won't work. Your economical options are limited. The ones I know are as follows.

1. 1979-1983 Mustang Capri V8 SROD 4 speed overdrive. You will have to slightly machine the throw out bearing sleeve OD down to match the ID of the 3 speed bellhousing. You could also machine the bellhousing ID larger but it makes more sense to me to machine the sleeve. This transmission has the dual late and early trans to bellhousing holes drilled already and will bolt to a 3 speed 292 bellhousing. The input shaft is the same extra length as a Mustang v8 T5. Clutch options will be the same as a T5. The shifter is far back on the trans, either buckets, a specially bent shifter handle or a bench seat with a notch cut in it for the shifter will be needed.

2. 1983 - 1993 Mustang V8 T5 of which you have 3 common versions and several upgraded ones. You will need a modified 292 3 speed bellhousing to use these transmissions. Stay away from Mustang 4 cylinder transmissions! They have a 4.0 first gear and a smaller input shaft and are weak There should be a tag bolted to the case starting with 1352- and then 3 digits. This will help to identify the trans. ALWAYS check the first gear ratio by turning the input with trans in first and counting how many revolutions it takes for input to turn output once.

1983 - 1984 2.95 first gear non-World class 265 ft lb rating. As earlier said stay away from this one unless its free!

1985 - 1989 3.35 first gear World Class with 265 ft lb rating. The extra strength of the World Class updates were offset by the steeper gear ratios. Supposedly shift better than earlier one as well. Tag numbers 126 141 165 169

1990 - 1993 3.35 first gear World Class 300 ft lb rating. These have stronger gears than ther earlier ones and is probably the best economical choice. Tag numbers 199 208 If by lucky chance you get one with a 218 tag thats a 1993 Cobra trans with a 310 ft lb rating. Still a 3.35 1st gear.

Various aftermarket and Ford Racing World Class T5s with a 2.95 first gear. Various torque ratings starting at 305 ft lbs up to the curent Ford Racing part number M-7003-Z (otherwise known as a T-5Z) with 330 ft lb rating. The T-5Z tag is 249.

3. A 1994 up Mustang T5 which has an even longer input shaft and can be used with the previously mentioned adapter to bolt directly to a 3 speed 292 truck bellhousing. The 1994-1995 V8 transmissions have 300 ft lb ratings, the 1994-1998 V6 trans has a 265 ft lb rating. The 1999-2004 V6 trans has the 300 ftlb rating but also has an electronic speedo drive that may not be so easy to adapt.

popbreed · Post by **popbreed** » October 7, 2010, 1:42 pm

I am going to install a Warner T86 in my 64 behind the 292. I have a car T86 and a truck T86. The truck version has a messed up cluster but the car one is AOK. I will put the truck input shaft in the car T86 and have the drive shaft shortened. I also have a later Warner T85 out of a 70s Ford truck. Much heavier trans but is harder to install than the t86. I have a T86 in my sedan behind a hopped up 312 with no problems over the last dozen years. I do not drive my 64 hard but like you, I need to reduce the rpms at 70 (ABOUT 3,000 NOW). My rear gears are 3.73 in a Dana 44.

fmartin_gila · Post by **fmartin_gila** » October 8, 2010, 9:52 am

When I changed out my 1995 T5 to a 1996 T5, all that needs done is to remove the elect speedo sender from the hole and insert the regular cable drive in it.

Fred