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BigMike
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jwh f-100 wrote:
f100matt wrote:The TOD will work with my bell housing right?
Yes, My PA neighbor norville put one behind a 390 with stock bell, I have one behind a 302 with a stock truck bell.

When I install mine (replace a t18) I left the bell/clutch, everything in place and just removed the four "butterfly" bolts that mount the trans to the bell. As long as the clutch is not depressed it will stay in place. The members here suggested I make up some dowel bolts to use during installation, very helpfull. After I had everything mounted I measured and had a new driveshaft made.


Where does the shifter end up?
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f100matt wrote:So the three speed overdrive is almost bolt in, thought i saw a post somewhere that said they had a hydrolic clutch?

The four speed would be out of a full size car? would it need to be off a 352, or will it bolt to my stock bell housing? I have mustang buckets in my pickup so i don't thing the shifter being too far back is a big problem.
You would not want a Toploader out of Big Block Car (352). You would need to get the bellhousing too.

If you get a Toploader out of a smallblock car your truck bell housing will work.

I like the three speed over drive idea. If you are not racing or hauling alot. You will be able to use you exsisitng clutch.

If you look at the threespeed with over drive Transmission line up next to a toploader transmission. They will look very close to the same. There is a quickway to tell the difference.

New Three Speed with overdrive Will only have four holes(outer bolt pattern) to bolt the transmission to the bell housing.

4 spd Toploader will have eight mounting hole Outer pattern and inner pattern.

(before some else brings it up, there is a exception to this . The very first year (1964??)or couple years of toploaders had only 4 holes. Inner square pattern. You will not likely run into one of these.)
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BigMike wrote:
jwh f-100 wrote:
f100matt wrote:The TOD will work with my bell housing right?
Yes, My PA neighbor norville put one behind a 390 with stock bell, I have one behind a 302 with a stock truck bell.

When I install mine (replace a t18) I left the bell/clutch, everything in place and just removed the four "butterfly" bolts that mount the trans to the bell. As long as the clutch is not depressed it will stay in place. The members here suggested I make up some dowel bolts to use during installation, very helpfull. After I had everything mounted I measured and had a new driveshaft made.


Where does the shifter end up?
Pretty much stock location. Mine is off a bit because my engine/tranny is mounted centered between the frame rails.

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Think theres some confusion on names.a TOD is NOT the aluminum case integral shifter trans in mid 80's trucks with .86 to 1 O. D and hyd clutch.To my knowledge the name is SROD.I have a couple,they work just fine, and are plentiful.As everyone says,not recommended for heavy towing.The TOD is a rare animal which I have also and has a cast iron top loader case,with 3rd and 4th swapped to give a .81to1 O.D and mech.clutch.It is identified by the word ORION on the case.What say ya'll?
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The Orion is the one I have. They aren't that rare, at least around here. Several in pickups, a few in Torino's and such. Good tough OD trans.
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