Fixing a factory radio, & adding MP3

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I recently bought a 1966 factory radio to use in my truck. I wasn't sure if it was functional or not, but it looked decent, had good chrome, and the knobs were there, so I took a chance for $20.

When I got it home, I cleaned it up- It appeared that the truck had been sandblasted with it in place, and the case was FILLED with sand. There were a few loose connections here and there, but after a bit of tinkering, I got it going. It made an annoying buzzing sound, though, and didn't seem to receive any stations. I could attribute the lack of reception to not having an antenna attached... But the buzzing was another problem. I figured i'd do some troubleshooting to find out what it could be.

I've messed with old electronics before, and know that often the 'weak link' is the old capacitors in the radios. A little web research confirmed that this could very easily be the problem, so I decided to try replacing the electrolytic capacitors, which can dry out over time and cause problems. The factory radio has 2- a 50µF and a 500µF. This image shows their location on the board-

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Replacing them is a simple matter of removing the old ones, and soldering in new ones in the same location. Good luck finding the EXACT capacitors- But, you can get close enough at Radio Shack-

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They stock 47µF and 470µF capacitors, which are close enough. They are about $1.50 each. Don't worry that they are significantly smaller than the original ones in the radio, like many other things, capacitors have shrunk quite a bit in the past half century or so.

This is the location on the back of the board, where you'll be working from-

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The 50µF is close to the top of the board, so it's not tough to tell which leads to remove, but the 500µF is tucked away down inside, and could be a little tougher to find, so just look at the picture. Remember that capacitors are polarized, you have to get the "-" an the "+" into the right holes... With both of these, the negative was on top.

Once I replaced the capacitors, I powered the radio up- and the buzz was GONE.

Next, I decided to try a little 'hack' that I had seen some instructions for online- Adding a jack for an MP3 player input. The instructions were a tad vague, but I worked through them and figured it out. I was able to get all the parts I needed at radio Shack, for about $5.

It involved soldering a few wires into the radio, between the audio inputs and the volume adjustment knob. Then, you run some wires out of the radio chassis, to a 1/8" stereo jack. You can then connect pretty much any device that has a headphone output to it that you want.

This is the board inside the radio where the connections are made-
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The stereo jack that I bought is also available at Radio Shack. If you use a different one, the pinout might be a little different, and you'll have to figure out what goes where. You'll also need a resistor, I used a 100Ω. Here's how the plug is wired-

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The black wire will go to the ground. The resistor connects the two stereo audio outputs into one, through the resistor. I just connected my output wire (green in my case) to the resistor wire to keep things simple.

I hooked it all up= And it worked!


It actually sounds pretty good through the old radio. Of course, it's not going to sound GREAT- For one thing, it's mono... The factory system isn't what you'd call great sounding anyway. But, it's nice to have the ability to plug an MP3 player in, unless you really like listening to VERY limited AM stations :)

Using My IPhone with it, I can also route calls through the speaker, as well as GPS directions, etc. Also, I can listen to streaming radio as well. I think it's a pretty worthwhile upgrade, considering it only cost a few bucks and an hour or two of time!

-Andrew
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ezernut9mm wrote:boss!
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i dont have enough time right now for something like that but seems like a good indoor project on a cold winter day.
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Hints and tricks? Nice work simple easy to follow inatructions :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Bitchin. Awesome write up.
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jkimbrel65 wrote:Hints and tricks? Nice work simple easy to follow inatructions :clap: :clap: :clap:

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That's cool. My radio stopped working a while ago. Maybe it is capacitors. Not that I could hear it over all the ambient noise, anyway.
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Very nice write up and a worthy project. Included pictures with circles and arrows too :-)
As far as me understanding it, it could have been written in the "original greek".
It's good to have folks who do understand it around though. Thanks for sharing.
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Just wanted to say thanks for that writeup. I added it to my favorites for later referral. Like Ice said a good indoor project for winter idle time. Thanks again.
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I'm glad that someone else will get some use out of it!

I forgot that there was a section of the site for projects like this- I'll have to do a slightly easier to follow write up on it there, too...

As a side note- This should NOT have any effect on the operation of your AM radio, as long as you disconnect the MP3 player or whatever else you have connected to it... Both use the same 'feed', and the MP3 just 'walks' over the radio signal as far as I can tell. You can really improve the sound by tuning the AM radio to somewhere on the dial where there is little or no static and noise, then connect the player.

Oh- And for ANYONE who's got annoying buzzes and excessive static coming from their radio- Try the capacitor replacement! You'll be amazed if it works- and it usually does. If that wasn't the problem, it wont HURT anything to do it, and it'll only cost you $3 or so.


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NICE...

Funny to see the CAP size difference...from the 60's to now.


BTW the sand is in there to keep the AM stations from skipping when you go off roading... :mrgreen:
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This is very cool!
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Well, not having winter idle days here in Florida, I went to RadioShack and picked up Caps. and put them in my radio. About one hour total time; 30 minutes to R-and-R, and 30 minutes to replace the Caps. Someone with nimble fingers could probably cut that time down some. Putting the large Cap. in was the hardest for me, it was so low down on the board I couldn't get to it with my fingers, I had to use a pair of tweezers.
Now, my radio has no buzzing, or static across the entire dial.

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rwhistles wrote: Now, my radio has no buzzing, or static across the entire dial.
Isn't the difference amazing? It's like a whole new radio. I wonder how many old ones were junked without knowing this little 'fix'??

That 500µF capacitor is a bit of a pain to get to... It makes it a LOT easier to do the job if you refer to the photo I posted, since you'll know exactly which two terminals to desolder. There's a lot of connections in that area of the board! It would make life a lot easier if you could just remove the board, but as you found out, the internal wires are much too short to allow that.

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Andrew, that my friend is a very cool upgrade to an AM radio. Around here the only choices for stations on AM are newstalk or sports, mexican music, and some religious programming. All the music stations went over to the FM side, even the oldies station.
Having an MP 3 hookup is a big plus for a few bucks. Who knew it could be done so easily!
Now, as for me, I can't get anywhere near a circuitboard with a soldering iron without destroying it, so it would be in my best interest to not try this at home. Lol! But, since you definitely have such a great grasp on the whole deal, what say those of us who are like me and want their radios modded just pack them up and ship them to you for the work.
Would you want to do something like that for fellow members? I am sure there would be a fee of course, can't expect you to do it for nothing. What do you say? TR
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Truckrat wrote:
Would you want to do something like that for fellow members? I am sure there would be a fee of course, can't expect you to do it for nothing. What do you say? TR
I'd be more than happy to make the mods, BUT remember I'm not a pro, And if you ship a radio to me, it's at your own risk! I can't make any guarantees that I won't screw things up!
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:clap: Very well done Andrew!, it`s good to see someone take the time and do a how to!
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Very cool! Great tune too, unplugged?
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fire truck wrote: Great tune too, unplugged?
Yes, kind of ironic considering I was testing if the plug in mod worked on the radio :)
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