Remember when gas prices were going through the roof?

[needmoretime]

From the archives of 1979!


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[Slick Fan]

Man, that seems like a lifetime ago.

[6166 Junkyard Dog]

HEY WAYNE If you can go back to 1973/74 when we where fighting with gas shortages and had to do ODD/EVEN DAYS, Well my first non-paying job was to check the plates in the lines for the correct numbers,, since we lived across the Gulf Station not to far to go BUT My pay at the end of the day was a full tank of gas for my thirsty 440 powered 66 Dodge Charger I had,, We where still going out so sometimes I would use Kathy's Camaro so she got to drive during the week,, So I never worried about gas back in high school

[Activated Org 64]

I personally think 1973 was when we lost the war that few realized we were in.

This country chose not to do the things that were required to be Energy Selfsufficient and decided to put our national future in the hands of others.

[ICEMAN6166]

i think it started long before 1973.
the technology to replace the internal combustion engine exists but is subdued by the oil and auto industry and governments.

hybrids will not be the answer, they will still require oil and gas and offer no comfort or value for long range travel or high speed.they are just something to please a segment of the people and try and take some heat off the industry.

what other way can you power a slick ? i have several not being used that could be experimented with. i have began to think about it a lot lately mainly due to the fact that i have stopped working on the project slicks because i can no longer afford to keep putting fuel in them all.
last night we needed to get gas in my 66, was on E. also needed to fill a 5 gal can for the towtruck. $60 filled the can and put 12 gallons in the slick which of course is not near full.

[Greg D]

We should be screaming about the ridiculous taxes that are on fuel, the stuff would only cost about .50 more a gallon than 1974 or so if there wasn't so much tax on it. We need a national movement saying "You want relected? - lower the tax on fuels, period! I wonder how many tax increases have been put through on fuel in the last 30 years that we don't even know about. If I were to go with an "alternative fuel" it would be to tell the government to piss up a rope - not the oil companies. Hybrids are crap, on the hyway they do worse than their gas only counterpart.

[needmoretime]

Tell me when the American will revolt? 3 a gallon? 4 a gallon? 5 a gallon? 6 a gallon?

It hurts everyones pocket but it is not hurting near enough! We all are adjusting and then it will go up again! We will then adjust and then it will go up again. A 3% raise does not cover a 5,10,20% or more increase in the cost of living! People have no will to fight! We gave that up years ago and the stinking media is part of the problem!

Don't drill here! Don't put up that refinery here! Don't go to nuclear power here! Don't explore for oil here!

Strip mall? auh, go ahead and build as many as you want! We need more dollar stores and pizza shops!

I am done ranting

WK

[6166 Junkyard Dog]

Yeah just build another Wal-Mart or small office complex,, By us there is 6 Wal-Marts in a 35 mile radius thats Blame on those people in the local govt... Use to go across TEXAS AND see farm land, oil wells , might not be running but now what do you see, WAL-MARTS just about every other town then after awhile when they go down we are stuck with a bunch of damn empty buildings,, Why in the heck do we need 4 drug stores on a 4 corner block ?????

[Johnny Canuck]

The government and the oil companies saw, from that little experiment in the 70's, how they could really rake it in if they created this BS about "Shortages" and created a panic. They have been using it in small proportions, to boost prices and further line their pockets,ever since.

Basically gas prices are all an illusion created by the poor staving oil companies, who continue every year to record another record profit, and the governments who reap the taxes and keep the turmoil going, to their mutual benefit. True, there should have been lessons learned back then about alternate fuel production, but, as Ice says, it was stymied by those reaping the profits.

IMHO, the revolution should be both against the oil companies and the governments, Wayne. But, history repeats itself. The English and their colonies were lulled into being sheep-like, after centuries of rule by an ever increasingly greedy King and his parliament. They thought they were the greatest power on Earth and nothing could touch them. Then, in 1776 a little band of upstarts changed that forever, and lulled some of the sheep away from the herd.

Wonder if there are any of those kind of people left.
Upstarts, I mean.

[Jarrod]

There should be 1 formula for gas in this country. That would lower the price. I don't quite understand why our country has 50 different smog/pollution regulations. At 3.37 a gallon by my house, we are still cheaper than any other country but at some point we need to stand up and say STOP. Gas prices were at 4.00 a gallon in the greater Los Angeles during the summer months. I don't have the answers, but doing what we are doing taint workin'

[ICEMAN6166]

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one day long ago, the folks got tired of the tax on their favorite beverage ,tea.
a bunch of them got together and dumped all the tea from the ships in the harbor into the water.
unfortunately we cannot do the same with oil for obvious reasons.
were that to happen today,those men would be called terrorists for doing that.

around the same time a Mr. Franklin said:
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the auto industry , oil and government have followed his advice while most of the rest of the population followed something else.



in the end it will resemble this:



The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Benjamin Franklin

[ICEMAN6166]

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/teslafe1.htm

[DV65CustomCab]

I fear not the high price of gasoline.

[ICEMAN6166]

but i do fear the smallness of that car.i have a fear of confined spaces and besides i see moose bigger than it every day.


i think the sacrifice of size , comfort and even safety for economy is not a good deal.

[Slick Fan]

I fear not the high price of gasoline.

I bet that Mini would almost fit in the bed of your Slick.

[Greg D]

Cool, a real Mini, unlike the way overpriced status symbol now sold under that name.
From a reliable source I hear that the oil companies make about .02 to .03 per gallon, not exactly a huge profit out of a $2.97 per unit product the government gets over $1.00 per gallon off of it. Sure they make alot of money in volume but that is because we buy so much of it. The ridiculous number of formulas out there, greatly increases production costs. Some of the problem is the "save the earth" run amuck, they even brainwash our kids with it in school. Schools have become primarily a left wing training facility. I can go along with not being irresponsible but I also believe that going too far with "green" is also irresponsible especially when it's mandated by a bunch of rich phuckers who get hauled around in limos at OUR expense! Children and politicians, the only people who get to decide how to spend someone else's money, both act the same too. The problem is with the lawmakers, period. Yet the same boneheads get reelected term after term so they can raise taxes again and again. If you add up all the taxes we pay including the ones that are hidden in the price of things over 1/2 of our income is going back out to tax. $1.00 + per gallon tax on gas is just one example.
There used to be alot of people who were terrified the communists would attack us. They knew that the US could not be destroyed this way. Their main plan was to get us to destroy ourselves. The descent they intended to sow was pretty much word for word what the political left preaches. Granted the USSR is much different now but this was started long ago. If we don't wake up and smell the coffee here someday there will be a big red star in place of all the little white ones on the flag.

[greythorn3]

but i do fear the smallness of that car.i have a fear of confined spaces and besides i see moose bigger than it every day.


i think the sacrifice of size , comfort and even safety for economy is not a good deal.

the gas may be cheap but the funerals are not.

Ray

[kuby67]

I'm not giving up on metal. Even when the gas runs out, there's always electricity. Even if it means making fat american kids run on treadmills to generate it. How hard can it be to convert a F-100 to run on batteries.

[ICEMAN6166]

I'm not giving up on metal. Even when the gas runs out, there's always electricity. Even if it means making fat american kids run on treadmills to generate it. How hard can it be to convert a F-100 to run on batteries.

i dont know how hard it would be but i am considering it. i have plenty of trucks and stuff to experiment with.
you will know if i succeed as you will not hear from me again because i will have to go into hiding .

[MadMaxetc]

say you want 300 HP. Thats 223,710 watts.

Thats a lot of power to pull out of some batteries! You would almost have to fill your bed up!

plus, most electrical plants are coal fired. Not realy a "green" fuel.

if you think electric cars are the way to go read this...HERE