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6 speed tremec trans
Posted: January 11, 2010, 7:33 pm
by ICEMAN6166
Posted: January 11, 2010, 10:12 pm
by Greg D
If it is the right Tremec it should bolt up similar to a T-5. T-5s are now made by Tremec BTW. I would ask him for the numbers off of it and get a hold of Tremec and tell them that a Mustang T-5 works for what you are planning - give them the numbers off this one and see what they say.
The only other issue I see is the aerodynamics of a Slick, the double overdrive, rear ratio, and power of a 223 not "playing well together". The final drive ratio will play a big roll in this - if you have 4:10 or 4:56 gears it may work. If you have 3:70s or so it will probably take the engine down under it's power band unless you are going 105 MPH, lol.
Posted: January 11, 2010, 10:27 pm
by Obsa
What is the powerband on a 223. I always thought that if it was above idle you were in the powerband?
Posted: January 11, 2010, 11:05 pm
by fire truck
If it's a t56, that's a deal and a half!!! Not a simple bolt on though...
No way
Posted: January 11, 2010, 11:47 pm
by bluebolt
There is no feasible way to mount a T56 to a 223 bellhousing, these transmissions take a bellhousing totally different than a T5. Here is a link to a small block Chevy to a T56.
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/techa ... to_03.html
Posted: January 12, 2010, 8:41 am
by Greg D
Bluebolt - T-5 doesn't "bolt" to the 223 bell either. The bell housing is modified by adding bosses that are then tapped.
Posted: January 12, 2010, 8:48 am
by fmartin_gila
On that powerband thing. I kept the 3.70 rear in mine and with the OD of the T5 multiplies out to 2.701. I keep it between 1200 and 1800 most of the time cause it makes so much racket above 1800 and it is on the verge of dropping out below 1200 RPM. Don't really know how accurate this is cause of a cheap Tach.
Fred
Bellhousing
Posted: January 12, 2010, 10:55 am
by bluebolt
Greg D wrote:Bluebolt - T-5 doesn't "bolt" to the 223 bell either. The bell housing is modified by adding bosses that are then tapped.
I understand that Greg but the T56 bellhousing is radically different, spenidng $600 on one to try to figure out a way to use it behind a 223 could be better spent on a T5 conversion.
Posted: January 12, 2010, 12:24 pm
by mangler
Tremec makes different bell housing for just about everything. I'd buy it then call them and tell them what your doing. They'll have something that will work for you.
Posted: January 12, 2010, 12:41 pm
by Obsa
I don't know but a Uni powered by a 223 with a six speed sounds like a sweet ride
Posted: January 12, 2010, 12:47 pm
by charliemccraney
I think it's a bad idea if you're not going to put a lot of power in front of it. He says it's built. Stock t56's require more power than a T5, and probably the stock 3 and 4 spds, just to operate. A built one probably requires more. How much power can you spare with the 223? It's heavy. It's not going to be easy to mount. I also think that 6th will be a little tall. My T5 is a .63 od. With a 3.70 and 225/70-15 tires, I'm turning 1950rpm at 70mph.
Posted: January 12, 2010, 12:55 pm
by fire truck
They don't even make a bell for Windsor engines (another company makes a kit) so what are the odds of one for a 223?
I've never heard on a Manual gear box requiring a certain level of power, only limits. An auto on the other hand....
Posted: January 12, 2010, 1:09 pm
by 36truck
Quick time makes a bellhousing for the Y block.
http://www.quicktimeinc.com/products.html#ford
RM-8055 Ford "Y" Block to Ford TKO 500-600, 3550, T5 Mustang
Posted: January 12, 2010, 3:10 pm
by charliemccraney
fire truck wrote:
I've never heard on a Manual gear box requiring a certain level of power, only limits. An auto on the other hand....
It definitely won't be as significant as an auto because of the lack of a hydraulic pump. But it'll still has to turn gear wheels, shafts, and overcome friction. The bigger, beefier transmission will require something more. Maybe it's not significant enough to be a concern but there will be a difference, nonetheless.
Posted: January 13, 2010, 12:33 am
by cavinandpavin
thats a smokin deal nun the less buy it and flip it, with the profit you could do a t5 conv for 'free'