Door Locks

roadtripjoe · Post by **roadtripjoe** » February 22, 2009, 10:54 pm

I have door locks but the keys dont work. I am looking at getting new ones from dennis. Are there tricks I need to know or do they just pop right in? Anybody already do this? Cant stand leaving my truck unlocked all the time.

cdherman · Post by **cdherman** » February 22, 2009, 11:04 pm

It is not complicated to swap out both the door lock tumblers and ignition tumber (provided your have a key for the ignition). The door you don't need a key to remove.

You kind of have to learn how the mechanism works and you may curse a little and skin your knuckles up inside the doot. There is a clip that hold the tumbler in place in the door skin and then a linkage that connects to the door latch as I recall -- its been a while. With patience and some time, you'll get it done.

I found a very good deal on ebay for 64-69 mustang ignition tumbler and two door tumblers plus 4 keys for like $28 (few years ago). The early Mustangs have the same keys as our trucks and since the market is so huge, you'll find the best deals looking for Mustang parts.

Of course, you won't go wrong with DC either -- just perhaps pay more......

Post by **Greg D** » February 23, 2009, 2:13 am

The set I bought was probably the same one CD got. Good pats for the $.

dwbr · Post by **dwbr** » February 23, 2009, 11:31 am

i bought a complete set off evilbay, had the ignition tumbler and matching door inserts, it came with new clips to hold them in, was no problem, i did use the directions someone posted her on how to change the ignition tumbler.
on the doors there are 2 metal clips, one holds the lock assembly in the door, the other hold the rod that goes to the door lock
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blackagatha · Post by **blackagatha** » February 23, 2009, 7:12 pm

dont know nothing about the ignition. The doors are easy as cake though...

just dont break the clip that holds the little rod to the lever. Depending on what side it is, you may not be able to find one with the correct "flip". (I broke the hard one to find) not sure if I ever found one, or if it is still held together with a twist of wire...

just get on the big clip with a pair of vise grips and it's easy.

The huge access hole in Slick doors is SO nice...

BobbyFord · Post by **BobbyFord** » February 24, 2009, 4:48 pm

Same parts as 65 Mustang...

Hurk · Post by **Hurk** » February 24, 2009, 4:55 pm

http://fordtruk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=138

Some good info on How to install the ignition switch which i think will be the hardest to do.

R Pope · Post by **R Pope** » February 27, 2009, 7:43 am

I just pull the tumblers out and put the locks back in. Any key will work then! How many thieves try the lock with a key they have in their pocket? Then again, if you leave the doors open, you lose the stereo, anyway, but you don't have to replace the window they smash to get in!

ras4434 · Post by **ras4434** » February 27, 2009, 9:21 am

I agree with R Pope. MIKI is always unlocked and with the alarm on. The flashing light inside is more of a deturant than the door lock and I dont have to fix the _ _ _ _ wing window. Funny, since the alarm I have not had a breakin....................Ross

R Pope · Post by **R Pope** » February 27, 2009, 10:37 am

Yep, locks only keep the honest people out. I never lock my house out on the farm, I hate the thought of coming home and finding a woman and kids frozen to death on my porch 'cause they couldn't get in where it's warm. If someone wants to rob the joint, they'll kick the door in anyway, then my whole house freezes up. If the door's unlocked, they might close it when they leave. Same with trucks.

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » February 27, 2009, 12:25 pm

i rarely take the keys out of the ignition,and have no idea where my house keys are, we do have locks on the door but have never used them.

blackagatha · Post by **blackagatha** » March 1, 2009, 12:39 am

ha, we always lock the house but it's a joke.... The back door has a gaping hole (dog door) less than a foot from the locking knob. Granted, there is a very HIGH probability that dog associated with said hole will create a gaping hole in entrant....

Eh, haha that's not too likely either though.... We Regularly come in that way.... dog almost Never investigates.... But he'll be right after them if they're stealing the FOOD!!!! haha clunk the fridge or cabinet and he's right out!

As far as the slicks, I'm pretty sure that even With thee tumblers in the locks, they're not much account.

Some bastard at school was repeatedly getting into my truck Freshman year of College.... Never stole or hurt anything.... The SOB DID move her across the parkinglot, (sideways like 20 spots) and still pointed the same direction.... I'm pretty sure they were Not pushing.... The ignition switch though different key is just a little more account than the door lock, I'm sure they had her running, and Most Likely went for a Joyride....

After the 5th or so time they got in they left a note telling me to "get better locks because it only took 2 paper clips".......

they Are the original locks, but have been freshly re-keyed.... The keys are pretty lame looking though.... just 3 TINY nicks in the edge.

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » March 1, 2009, 1:16 pm

theres only so many different keys.

a friend found this out in a rather amusing (well not for him) way.
once he woke up in the morning his bumpside was moved to the other side of the road.
next it moved while he was in a restaurant.
couple more times it happened.
one day a few months later he discovered why.
him and his brother were going somewhere, the brother asked to drive his truck, so he went inside to get the keys, came back and the truck was already running.
seems his brothers bumpside had the same ignition tumblers and so he had the same key. was not even the same year truck.

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » March 1, 2009, 3:18 pm

There are actually 3125 possible different key combinations in an old Ford lock. Ford did not use all combinations as they avoided any that had three or more tumblers at the same height next to each other. This limits the possible number to just under 3100 combinations if I remember correctly. Wear also makes similar keys work. Given that the same locks were used from the mid 50's to the mid 60's and given 100,000's of trucks were built, it is easy to see that many trucks would have the same keys. Hawkrod

MadMaxetc · Post by **MadMaxetc** » March 1, 2009, 3:28 pm

Hawkrod wrote:There are actually 3125 possible different key combinations in an old Ford lock. Ford id not us all combinations as they avoided any that had three or more tumblers at the same height next to each other. This limits the possible number to just under 3100 combinations if I remember correctly. Wear also makes similar keys work. Given that the same locks were used from the mid 50's to the mid 60's and given 100,000's of trucks were built, it is easy to see that many trucks would have the same keys. Hawkrod

My freind down the street growing up had a 65 mustang ant it had the same key as my 63.

It took him 3 months to figure out why his car was always a few feet up the hill from where he left it?!?!

R Pope · Post by **R Pope** » March 3, 2009, 7:50 am

In the '60's my cousin had a ring with 24 GM keys on it, with a bit of wiggling he could start any GM car in the country. Fords were tougher. The advent of double-sided keys really pissed him off!