Dont have what i thought I had

Post by **Kid** » November 13, 2009, 1:25 pm

Well I found a good bell on a 240/300 ( I thought ) that has the tabs on the bell to mount in a straight axle truck. I tried putting that bell on a 302 because I thought they woyuld be the same but it does not work. The top 2 holes line up but none of the rest do. The bell is wider at the bottom than the block. What could this bell be out of. I positivly know it came off a 6 Cyl as I removed it myself and was almost positive it was a 240/300. What do I have . I guess I have no use for it since it will not bolt to the 302 I have so I would like to know what it is if I see someone needing one

jwh f-100 · Post by **jwh f-100** » November 13, 2009, 2:29 pm

I'm not sure if it's any help but on my '62 with a 300 there is a plate between the engine and the bell. I don't know if that was the norm or something that was fabricated...

Here are some pics.....
http://fordtruk.com/forums/viewtopic.ph ... light=bell

Michelle · Post by **Michelle** » November 13, 2009, 3:05 pm

I don't know but may be it is a bell housing for a FE that you have.

Obsa · Post by **Obsa** » November 13, 2009, 3:59 pm

Kid,

I dont believe that the 240/300 motor was ever offered in the Straight axle trucks. Could it be that the bellhousing you have is for the 223/262 6 motor?

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » November 13, 2009, 4:20 pm

Could someone have dropped a 250 into it?? My Maverick had a 250 and nothing fits my 300...

.. Just an idea...
Anthony

banjopicker66 · Post by **banjopicker66** » November 13, 2009, 6:19 pm

It sounds like it could have been off a 223?

Brian Taylor · Post by **Brian Taylor** » November 13, 2009, 6:27 pm

I have the bell housing and cover from my 240 if you need one.

64fordf100292v8 · Post by **64fordf100292v8** » November 13, 2009, 7:38 pm

I have the same bellhousing and it was exactly the same way when I put it up to the back of a 351w. Mine also came off of a 240/300. I got it from FordMan thinking I could use it on the back of my cummins 4cyl with the smallblock Ford bellhousing adapter but no dice.

Obsa · Post by **Obsa** » November 13, 2009, 8:24 pm

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the 240/300 had the same bolt pattern as the 289/302/351W motors

Hawkrod · Post by **Hawkrod** » November 13, 2009, 8:29 pm

Yes, all 240's and 300's have the same bellhousing bolt pattern as the 289/302/251W. If the bell you have is off of a 6 and does not bolt onto a small block it is probably a 223 style bell. Many people do confuse them. Hawkrod

Post by **Kid** » November 13, 2009, 8:35 pm

Well I am positive it is not from a 223 as it is no where close to the one I have on the 223 going in my chop top. I had planned on using the 302 I have with a 4spd in the 64 but doesnt seem to be working that way. I will see if I can get some pics and measurements since I cant seem to be able to use it maybe somebody else can figure out what it fits and have a use for it........

Post by **Greg D** » November 13, 2009, 9:39 pm

Obsa wrote:Kid,

I dont believe that the 240/300 motor was ever offered in the Straight axle trucks. Could it be that the bellhousing you have is for the 223/262 6 motor?

65-66 Big Slicks - F 350 & up had this mounting and a big six.

Obsa · Post by **Obsa** » November 13, 2009, 9:46 pm

I didn't even think about the big trucks. My bad, at least I learned something. Was there a larger six just for the big trucks?

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » November 13, 2009, 9:58 pm

300 6 was the only 6 in the medium duty trucks.

the 4x4 and f350 from 65/66 used the bell with ears.
i have one, never tried it next to a 302/351 so i dont know the fitment issue.

i do have other later 6/302/ bells that i could compare to.

theres a part # in the casting , will look at the one i have and post later.

Post by **Kid** » November 13, 2009, 10:23 pm

where is the part number in the casting Brian.

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » November 13, 2009, 10:28 pm

Darrell
part # is on the trans side face

Post by **Kid** » November 15, 2009, 2:15 pm

WOW I have been IMing with Hawkrod and he thinks the bell I have is from a Diesel engine. I may have to srart looking for the one he said it is from and see if I can do a conversion on the other project I have, or how about a Diesel powered chop top Thanks Hawkrod for all your help, I appreciate it

ICEMAN6166 · Post by **ICEMAN6166** » November 15, 2009, 2:23 pm

thats a possibility i did not consider.
perhaps Michelle has some info on the diesel bells.